lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date: 01 May 2003 14:15:38 -0400
From: Nicolas Couture <nc@...rmvault.net>
To: Ethan Benson <erbenson@...ska.net>
Subject: Re: OpenSSH/PAM timing attack allows remote users identification


On Thu, 2003-05-01 at 05:12, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 04:34:27PM +0200, Marco Ivaldi wrote:
> > root@...doo:~# ssh [valid_user]@lab.mediaservice.net
> > [valid_user]@lab.mediaservice.net's password:	<- arbitrary (non-null) string
> > [2 secs delay]
> > Permission denied, please try again.
> > 
> > root@...doo:~# ssh [no_such_user]@lab.mediaservice.net
> > [no_such_user]@lab.mediaservice.net's password:	<- arbitrary (non-null) string
> > [no delay]
> > Permission denied, please try again.
> 
> ive noticed something similar in its handling of PermitRootLogin, if
> this option is set to `no' you get the following behavior:

This is not only true in association with the ssh daemon's
configuration. Even if root login is allowed in it's configuration but
pam disallow root logins, it'll result in a 2 seconds delay on bad
password and reject instantly good password instead of login.

The problem is not in the handling of PermitRootLogin but in the
handling of login in sshd, adding a 2 seconds delay before login or
removing the 2 seconds delay on bad login before sending an error would
fix the problem.

> $ ssh root@...t
> root@...t's password: <- arbitrary (non-null) string
> [2 secs delay]
> Permission denied, please try again.a
> 
> $ ssh root@...t
> root@...t's password:  <- correct root password
> [no delay]
> Permission denied, please try again.
> 
> i haven't checked the current version to see if this is still true. 

I verified this on redhat 8, openssh-3.4p1-2(rpm) and sshd is acting
just like you described it.



Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ