Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:36:43 +0200
From: "Sam" <Sam@...all.nl>
To: "RSnake" <rsnake@...cking.com>, "Chris Withers" <chris@...plistix.co.uk>
Cc: "Gadi Evron" <ge@...tistical.reprehensible.net>,
   "Harlan Carvey" <keydet89@...oo.com>, <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>,
   <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>
Subject: Re: Re: USB risks (continued)


Hi,

I tested it but it will only work when the user has admin rights.
With a normal user it will not work because it cannot change properties of
users or make a new user.

Sam


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RSnake" <rsnake@...cking.com>
To: "Chris Withers" <chris@...plistix.co.uk>
Cc: "Gadi Evron" <ge@...tistical.reprehensible.net>; "Harlan Carvey"
<keydet89@...oo.com>; <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>;
<bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: USB risks (continued)


>
> Of course it's not.  That's just Microsoft's explination.  There's no
> good reason, just a vague distinction.  My only point is that it isn't a
> reliable attack vector, unlike an onboard CDROMs (the media, not the
device
> must be removable).  Here is how Microsoft defines it on their usbfaq page
> (sorry, the links are broken, I just cut and pasted from
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/usbfaq.mspx):
>
> Q: What must I do to trigger Autorun on my USB storage device?
> If you need to make a USB storage device that executes Autorun, the
following
> two conditions must both be true:
>
> . Media must be marked as removable.
>
> . The device can be set to either static or removable.
>
> We associate the "removable" nature of a device with the bus that it
resides
> on. This means that a disk on an Integrated Device Electronics (IDE) or
SCSI
> bus would be considered fixed, whereas a disk on a USB or IEEE 1394 bus
would
> be regarded as removable by default. PnP uses a bit in the
DEVICE_CAPABILITIES
> structure to determine this. For more information, see the
DEVICE_CAPABILITIES
> Plug and Play Structure in the Windows DDK, located at
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/kmarch/hh/kmarch/k112_22r6.asp.
>
> The "removable" nature of media is a property of the device. For example,
in
> the case of a CD-ROM or a ZIP drive, the medium can be removed without the
> device itself going away, but on the other hand the medium and the disk
cannot
> be separated on static storage PC cards. We obtain this information by
using
> the StorageDeviceProperty request. For more information, see the
> STORAGE_DEVICE_DESCRIPTOR Storage Structure in the Windows DDK, located at
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/storage/hh/storage/k306_00qa.asp.
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Chris Withers wrote:
>
> | Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:59:11 +0100
> | From: Chris Withers <chris@...plistix.co.uk>
> | To: RSnake <rsnake@...cking.com>
> | Cc: Gadi Evron <ge@...tistical.reprehensible.net>,
> |      Harlan Carvey <keydet89@...oo.com>,
full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com,
> |      bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
> | Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Re: USB risks (continued)
> |
> | RSnake wrote:
> | > writeable, but the drives aren't removeable on CDs.  That of course
isn't true
> | > if you have a USB drive, but I think part of the deal there is that
you need to
> | > install special drivers to even read USB CD drives.
> |
> | ...that's not true ;-)
> |
> | Chris
> |
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