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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:25:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Greg A. Woods" <woods@...rd.com>
To: Jeremy Epstein <jeremy.epstein@...methods.com>
Cc: "BUGTRAQ: Full Disclosure Security Mailing List" <bugtraq@...urityFocus.com>
Subject: RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes


[ On Thursday, September 23, 2004 at 06:21:03 (-0400), Jeremy Epstein wrote: ]
> Subject: RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor     Account    Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes
>
> And I'd strongly discourage folks from calling for open source, as it plays
> directly into the hands of folks like Diebold, who claim that the people
> (like me) who want Voter Verified Paper Audit Trails (VVPATs) are really
> trying to kill free enterprise.  [Yes, I know all the examples of businesses
> based on open source, but that's not what this is about.]

Well, that's pretty stupid.

The answer is not to try to show that open source can be used in
captialistic ventures, but rather to be very clear in stating that free
enterprise (and capitalism) has no place whatsoever at any time in the
creation, formation, and instatement of a government for the people.

Indeed those involved in creating a government for the people need to be
very wary of even the support of corporate entities since such support
can invoke almost infinitely more power than any one governed individual
can ever hold over his or her government or a government representative.

Just as the Church(es) has(have) no place in the halls of government,
neither do corporations.  Corporations, despite being legally
individuals, don't even need one vote as no matter what governments
might do to regulate them they still have far more power than any human
individual.

-- 
						Greg A. Woods

+1 416 218-0098                  VE3TCP            RoboHack <woods@...ohack.ca>
Planix, Inc. <woods@...nix.com>          Secrets of the Weird <woods@...rd.com>


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