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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:14:35 -0400
From: Jim Knoble <jmknoble@...ox.com>
To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted passwords


Circa 2005-04-21 dixit Mike Fratto:

:  
: > I thought the idea of the salt was to aid in expanding the 
: > keyspace. Even though the salt is known (in traditional Unix 
: > passwd/shadow/master.passwd databases, 
: 
: I am pretty sure the intent the salt is to make pre-computation of a
: dictionaries infeasable due to storage requirements. It doesn't really add
: to the keyspace because the salt is known and doesn't have to be guessed.

... which is exactly what i was speaking of.  The salt increases the
keyspace for the precomputed table of password hashes.  The conversation
was not about brute force attacks....

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