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Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 13:04:42 -0500
From: "Todd T. Fries" <todd@...es.net>
To: Michael Scheidell <scheidell@...nap.net>
Cc: pablo.ximenes@....edu, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Exploiting Google MX servers as Open SMTP Relays

Yes this is very frustrating.

The details are not so hard to guess.  Unless this post is different,
anyone can send an email to a nonexistent user at a google service and
they accept it and bounce back to the envelope recipient. *sigh*.

We are going back to the stone age by copying qmails default stupidity.

This is doing very much harm.

I would even go as far as to say that Google is making a business case for
its latest purchase, postini, in a very evil way, every second this proble
goes unsolved.

*sigh*
-- 
Todd Fries .. todd@...es.net

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Penned by Michael Scheidell on 20080510  9:55.32, we have:
| 
| 
| > From: <pablo.ximenes@....edu>
| > Date: 7 May 2008 20:37:46 -0000
| > To: <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>
| > Subject: Exploiting Google MX servers as Open SMTP Relays
| > 
| > 
| > Vulnerability Report:
| > 
| > As part of our recent work on the trust hierarchy that exists among email
| > providers throughout the Internet, we have uncovered a serious security flaw
| > in Ggoogle's free email service, Gmail.
| > 
| > Disclosure:
| > We have contacted Google about this issue and are waiting for their position
| > before releasing further details.
| > 
| 
| Don't hold our breath.. I have tried to get them to close this very hole for
| maybe a year now.
| 
| (see/'google' for posts in bugtraq and spamassassin users group showing
| headers from unrelated domains sending spam through google mail servers..
| They ignore the emails to abuse@...gle.com)
| 
| 
| -- 
| Michael Scheidell, CTO
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| Winner 2008 Network Products Guide Hot Companies
| FreeBSD SpamAssassin Ports maintainer
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