bugtraq - Re: [Full-disclosure] Apache suEXEC privilege elevation / information disclosure

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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 09:52:45 -0700
From: Mike Ely <me@...pehat.com>
To: Reindl Harald <h.reindl@...lounge.net>
Cc: coderaptor <coderaptor@...il.com>,
  "bugtraq@...urityfocus.com" <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Apache suEXEC privilege elevation / information disclosure

Seems to me we have two positions that aren't that far apart but due to various reasons the conversation has devolved into something less worthy of a public discussion than most of what I see on Bugtraq.  FWIW I'm in the camp of "ship the software with secure defaults" but at the same time I agree that Reindl makes a valid point when he asks what exactly one means by "secure" (even if I don't agree with his reasoning in this case).

That said, the conversation has really taken an ugly turn, and I am humbly and only speaking for myself requesting that all concerned take some time to cool off, go for a walk (down to the pub if that helps), and come back with a focus more on the technical question at hand rather than the emotional response that has been rising to the top.

Thanks,
Mike