From: tupac.shakur at hushmail.com (tupac.shakur@...hmail.com)
Subject: An urgent warning to all concerning ~el8 / project mayhem (fwd)

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Ron DuFresne, you're a moron. Keep sucking justice system dick.
Keep sucking Theo dick. The frank fact of the matter is is that
you're unhappy because you havent gotten a chance to respond
to a direct attack on yourself and feel the need to criticize
those who respond in a manner that you disagree with and suck
the dick of those who have more capability against 'mini-terrorists'
than you yourself do, who DO react according to your ideas or in
this case DONT respond.  Of course its easy to agree with your
heros.  In all actuality Theo can't commend because he's choking
due to his swollen throat and jugular vein due to the pent up
anger and fustration.  Some people can bow to defeat easily,
and some can get upset at a game they take seriously.  And if you
dont think its a game, then why do you make yourself look like a clown
on a public mailing list if you really have a reputation to uphold.
You dumb fuck.  Go tell the justice system how much you want
to be involved in a bukkake session with them the next time youre
bitching at the pig who pulled you over for speeding you dumb fuck.
You know your faults, dont point out faults in others just for
exibition.  If youre going to harass nice people like Steve Manzuik, then do it with malicious intent. You dumb fucking kiddie.

GREETS TO THEO. YOU DUMB FUCK. COULD YOU AT LEAST KEEP PEOPLE
FROM IRCiNG FROM YOUR CVS MACHINES PLZ.

HOHO, GOOD JOB TEAM. U KNOW WHO U R.

>On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Ron DuFresne wrote:
>
>> That, and the article you quoted, or linked, and the number o
>f comments
>> quoted there by others in the industry.  The two brighter sec
>-industry
>> folks, Theo de Raadt and Shane Macaulay, at least would not c
>omment on the
>> childish antics of these mini-terrorist-wanna-bes.
>
>Article that *I* quoted and linked?  I wasn't aware that I had
>quoted or
>linked to any article.  Theo and Shane chose to not comment bec
>ause they
>were owned by these guys -- that makes them bright?  What does
>that tell
>you when they own "two brighter sec-industry folks"?  I wasn't
>commenting
>on their childish antics, I was asked if I was scared of the an
>ti-white
>hat threats being made and my answer was pretty much "No, this
>is nothing
>different and the only thing that has changed is that these guy
>s are not
>script kiddies.
>
>> Well, there's feeding into their own mania for one.  The old
>I wanna see
>> my name in lights and posted all over the place acknowledging
> my l33tn355.
>
>So why don't they deface web sites like every other kiddie who
>wants to
>see their names in lights?
>
>> Better that if you have names, they be spilled to the proper
>authorities
>> to bring these lamers to the knees of the justice system.  Ho
>pefully you
>> are not enabling them with some other childish whim of 'not t
>elling' on
>> your peers for sure.  Certainly avoid feeding their limited e
>gos, be part
>> of a concerted effort to end their tantrums in the halls of t
>he legal
>> system, and make their lives as tough as possible to persist
>in these
>> rantings.
>
>Now you are just making random acusations based on paranoid del
>usions and
>the mania being created by these clowns.  Withholding their nam
>es?  I
>don't think I ever claimed to know their real names, although i
>t wouldn't
>be hard to find out as already multiple people have posted thei
>r names all
>over the place using anonymous emailers.  I am sure the authori
>ties would
>have no problem finding out who these guys really are -- if the
>y wanted
>to.
>
>Why does it offend to hear that these aren't your normal script
> kiddies?
>If anything, it is you that is feeding into their cause by bein
>g so scared
>that you wish that no one would talk about them.
>
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