From: sockz at email.com (sockz loves you)
Subject: PHC = HFG.. same kids, different tune

sockz think gobbles need english learn more :P
...route has a duck?

----- Original Message -----
From: gobbles@...h.com
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:15:45 -0700 
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com, hushmail_cowards@...hmail.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] PHC = HFG.. same kids, different tune


Gobbles think you correct

Gobbles remind other real hackers who deface Global Hell

Sell much security product now



On On Sat, 05 Oct 2002 01:49:47 -0700 hushmail_cowards@...hmail.com wrote:
>http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2002-October/002345.html
>
>> They call him route
>> He has a duck
>> Girls like to meet him
>> To have a discussion about guys
>
>
>http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/1998/08/24/www.penthouse.com/
>
>We're HFG
>We have a truck
>We get our girls
>And then we SCREW
>
>
>http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/1999/01/26/www.techbroker.com/
>
>!-- HFG 99
>- -->
>
><!-- techbroker.com             Craqhed Meinel gives up r00t, dumb 
>bitch
>- -->
>
><!-- HFG 98
>- -->
>
><!-- Don't hate us because we rool.
>- -->
>
><!-- chili.rt66.com              Carolyn Meinel sucks a NuT and 
>eats
>CHILI-->
><!-- mack.rt66.com               CPM and customers have bad CREDIT
>- -->
><!-- www.elitehackers.org/~darkknight    Dark Knegro has gno security
>- -->
><!-- sps.motorola.com            Motorola wh1tey hands us r00t
>- -->
><!-- www.mot.co.jp               Motorola ch1nkz hand us r00t
>- -->
><!-- classifieds.penthouse.com   Told you we hacked for girlies!
>- -->
><!-- www.elitehackers.org        Saying hi to Horn Dog
>- -->
><!-- www.mchammer.com            Too legit to quit!@$
>- -->
><!-- www.jpl.nasa.gov            m1lw0rm & kids: Gov servers aren't 
>hard
>- -->
><!-- www.nytimes.com             NY behind the Times
>- -->
>
><!-- "A good joke is the one ultimate and sacred thing which cannot 
>be
>- -->
><!--  criticized. Our relations with a good joke are direct and 
>even
>- -->
><!--  divine relations."         - Gilbert Keith Chesterton
>- -->
>
><!-- HFG Member List
><!-- M4ST3R P1MP        - SUPREME HFG ROOLER
>- -->
><!-- SLUT PUPPY         - HFG SLUT
>- -->
><!-- S1D3K1CK SL4PPY    - HFG GRAFIKAL ARTISTE'
>- -->
><!-- D4DDY SW33T C4K3Z  - HFG ENTERTAINMENT COORDINATOR
>- -->
><!-- P4UL E H0E         - HFG LOVE DOKTOR
>- -->
><!-- DOS EDIT ROOLZ
>- -->
>
>
><!-- I think I fucked your girlfriend once, or maybe twice I dont
>remember.-->
><!-- Then I fucked all your friends girlfriends, now they hate you 
>.
>- -->
>
>
><!-- Just because we type in all caps and use 'elite' speak doesn't 
>mean
>- -->
><!-- we are kids, or we don't own your dumb ass.  For everyone who 
>calls
>- -->
><!-- us immature kids, it shows one more person has underestimated 
>us.
>- -->
><!-- And worse, what does that say about their security?  That "immature
>- -->
><!-- kids" were able to bypass their 25,000 dollar firewalls, bypass
>- -->
><!-- the security put there by admins with XX years of experience 
>or a
>- -->
><!-- XXX degree from some college.  Nyah Nyah.
>- -->
><!--
>- -->
><!--    "The best is the enemy of the good."
>- -->
><!--                    - Voltaire
>- -->
>
>
><!-- Labeling us as such is not constructive.  If we find the time 
>and
>- -->
><!-- effort to hack a few pages, labeling us "terrorists" will only
>- -->
><!-- further annoy us and provoke us since it is absurd to make
>- -->
><!-- such parallels between two disparate groups.  The real reason
>- -->
><!-- we put any blame on Carolyn Meinel is because of her obtuse
>- -->
><!-- over-dramatizations of our actions.  Did we hold anyone hostage?
>- -->
><!-- No.  Did we 'terrorize' anyone?  No.  Did we point out the
>- -->
><!-- inadequacy of her ISP?  Hell yes.  End of story.
>- -->
>
>
><!-- Winn Schwartau uses his few minutes of fame to cash in. A media 
>whore
>- -->
><!-- using buzzwords to influence military idiots who dont know 
>any better.
>- -->
><!-- Hes lost his technological edge, and is becoming more known 
>as the
>- -->
><!-- laughing stock of the infosec community. He made money off 
>of Carolyn
>- -->
><!-- Meinels book.(See it promoted at infowar.com until recently.
>- -->
><!-- He is a charlatan as she is. Just to make him look real good 
>we got
>the-->
><!-- dirt on him: Winn Schwartau and his wife have been seen frequenting
>- -->
><!-- Swingers Clubs (Swinging in the sexual sense, not dancing),
> in the
>- -->
><!-- Tampa Bay area. Really do you want a prevert securing your 
>network?
>- -->
><!-- Sorry Winn, when you chose your friends, you also chose their 
>enemies.
>- -->
>
>
><!-- Ahh yes, the Markoff/Mitnick, Shimomoru/Mitnick, Quittner/MOD,
>
>Stoll/Hess  -->
><!-- pattern comes clearer.
>
><!-- THESE 'REET HTML TAGS WERE ST0LEN FROM THE ICSA            
>          -->
>
><!-- True, there is a much more noble reason for everything.
>- -->
><!--
>- -->
><!--    And this gray spirit yearning in desire
>- -->
><!--    To follow knownledge like a sinking star,
>- -->
><!--    Beyond the utmost bound of human thought.
>- -->
><!--                            - Lord Alfred Tennyson
>- -->
>
>
><!-- CAROLYN MEINEL TAUGHT US TO HACK AND TO HAVE NO ETHICS. BLAME 
>HER.
>- -->
>
><!-- Enforcers.  Contrived media hype for Ian.  Enough said.
>- -->
><!-- MOD (Masters of Downloading).  Wow.  FTPing via 'anonymous' 
>is 'leet
>- -->
><!-- Legions Of the Underground. You idiotic media whores. Jumping 
>on the
>- -->
> <!-- political hacker bandwagon was cute. Your still idiots, and 
>your
>- -->
><!-- still script kiddiez without clue or cause. We mean it, GO 
>TO BED!
>- -->
><!-- Shipley, you no talent media whore. You and se7en  need a nap
>- -->
><!-- Ashtray Lumberjacks.  Your name says it all.  More script kiddies.
>- -->
><!-- H4G1S.  Enough said.  (H4G1S == F4GZ)
>- -->
>
>
><!-- What are they saying about HFG?
>- -->
><!--
>- -->
><!-- HFG is "assaulting customers of RT66", "chill[ing] freedom 
>of speech
>- -->
><!-- across the Internet", causing "1.8 million in damage" to rt66.com,
>
>- -->
><!-- are responsible for "the hacker war [that] has escalated to 
>epic
>- -->
><!-- proportions", and "the worst terrorists in the history of computer
>- -->
><!-- crime". - Carolyn Meinel
>- -->
><!--
>- -->
><!-- HFG is "hostage-takers", who "hold hostage" ISPs. - Carolyn 
>Meinel
>- -->
><!--
>- -->
><!-- "HFG is lame. They are kids who like to edit webpages by dwelling
>- -->
><!-- on others code to gain access." - DeathCrase in #phrack
>- -->
>
><!-- Every sweet has its sour; every evil its good. - Ralph Waldo 
>Emerson
>- -->
>
><!-- If you disagree with this crap, mail Carolyn P. Meinel (CM1733) 
>at
>- -->
><!-- cpm@...hbroker.com, cpm@...6.com .. or search for her in your
>- -->
><!-- favorite info database:  SS# 558-82-9106
>- -->
><!--           505-281-9675, 505-281-9269, 505-281-0490
>- -->
><!--              4 Fawn RD, Cedar Crest NM 87008
>- -->
><!--            79 Weimer Rd. N, Sandia Park NM 87047
>- -->
>
><!-- Feel free to mail her 'backdoor man' Winn Schwartau as well.
>- -->
><!-- William L. Schwartau (aka Winn Schwartau)   SS# 134-36-7297
>- -->
><!-- winn@...owar.com
>- -->
>
><!--       So farewell hope, and with hope farewell fear,
>- -->
><!--          Farewell remorse: all good to me is lost;
>- -->
><!--                  Evil, be thou my good.
>- -->
><!--                     - John Milton
>- -->
>
>
>Good job on the first defacement morgan.. you aussie kangaroo fucker
>
>http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/1998/04/13/www.rt66.com/
>
>More work of the team of these ./scriptkiddiots when morgan pulled
>in his circle of trash
>
>http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/hfg.html
>
>
>



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