lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket
[<prev] [next>] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
From: Btd at valmont.com (Dehner, Benjamin T.)
Subject: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back

 
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

This seems to be equivalent to saying the policemen are the cause of
evil in our society.  If everyone was a law-abiding citizen, they
would be out of business, so they actually encourage crime.

There is another bit of misinformation here related to another thread
going currently.  Unless another NIMBDA, Code Red, or similar
media-hyped worm starts going around, that a "theoretical
vulnerability" is not really being exploited, and security experts
are fear-mongering.  True cybercrime does not want publicity, they
want to quietly slip in, steal data or cause an illicit data
transaction, then leave with as little trace as possible.  How many
vulnerabiities would be acknowledged -- let alone fixed -- without
the security industry?


- -----Original Message-----
From: sockz loves you [mailto:sockz@...il.com]
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:54 PM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back


'Evil' vendors strike back    
Blue Boar. 
December 31, 2002. 

Vendors including Microsoft, Sun, SGI, and HP -- long regarded as
sinister 
monopolies bent on domination of the free market economy -- are now
pointing 
their fingers at the commercial security industry. 

"They say we're evil and mean and nasty, which is why we haven't been
able to 
actively use the weight of the DMCA against them in legal
proceedings. We'd 
love to be able to preclude the security industry from capitalizing
on fear and 
insecurity to the detriment of our user base," said one vendor's
spokesman on 
conditions of anonymity. 

...

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGP 7.0.4

iQEVAwUBPhGvmSU/oB/I/wyZAQEVGgf9EBZdSEbL05oF+/b4CyU7hebrbwjAN1Rp
4jQpf+Gi6wMmATcC8yPl6xL2OPDfUfqjKVmEpQ48HEzk7tK4i6rQQwhBOhFe9rK+
vwG4MGe7ZyXWed3o46nIbSVCOExAsGs5tWiKd4kHG84WtMOiGxONx/rFFksezqvR
09ZC2uBaNxxtSfJR3Xvxz5Tdi4CQbEYdHQTtRr36enOIrPFQS9LwQrrq0vlPPBFY
y4EAkWJcVNOwJQxhpziDvtVXYGXaQKUTp836oDcyZ3WNUtYRuSlJC4A9t19ACeOu
xt13fhhu58B1E7CLDkQnRJ1FIHEo2Ge9eV6iuYw2ma5QbRKAO5CHoQ==
=WnlC
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ