From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu)
Subject: pissed off 

On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 23:36:22 CDT, cyn0n@...ealbox.com  said:
> greets-
>   Is anyone else pissed off at stupid shit like this flying around lists
> that are supposed to be respectable? Arguing over this type of stuff and
> even reporting this is just the most stupid fucking thing I've ever
> seen.

Umm.. I've seen lots of stupid shit on lists, but I have to disagree with
your assessment of this as "stupid shit".  We have the following:

0) Remember that for an increasing fraction of the security community,
"standard BBC English" is *NOT* a first language - so we all need to
give each other leeway - what may be read as abrasive, irritating, or
flaming may only be a lack of skill with English.

1) somebody (badpack3t? attrib/quoting lost) posts a vulnerability
in Xeneo.

2) Tamer Sahin posts that it was a known thing already posted, and that
people shouldn't post without searching first.  Quite politely phrased
and good advice.

3) badpack3t posts back saying that this vulnerability is a new and different
one, and asks for clarification from Tamer of why he thinks it's the same hole.
Everybody is being mostly civil, and there's a definite lack of any ad-hominem
attacks.  If badpack3t *has* found a different hole, then he certainly
deserves credit for it, and Tamer owes him a "Sorry, you're right, that's
a different hole".

Now admittedly, Xeneo doesn't have a lot of market share - but if that
was the only criteria, then we shouldn't bother posting anything except
IE and ISS bugs.  Would it still be "stupid shit" if the exact same
exchange had happened, with "Apache" instead of "Xeneo"? Probably not...
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