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From: John.Airey at rnib.org.uk (John.Airey@...b.org.uk)
Subject: Robert S Johnson is out of the office. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu]
> Sent: 30 April 2003 18:14
> To: John.Airey@...b.org.uk
> Cc: tcannon@...ps.org; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Robert S Johnson is out of the office. 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:27:15 BST, John.Airey@...b.org.uk said:
> 
> > According to Ollie's book "Under Fire", the messages were 
> "deleted" but not
> > actually removed from the system. It's a bit like deleting 
> messages from a
> > PST file without then compressing it. Or deleting a file 
> from a Netware
> > server without a subsequent purge. Or deleting an email 
> from an Exchange
> > server without purging them from the deleted items folder...
> 
> Hmm.. OK.. The way I heard it, the mail system in question 
> was IBM's PROFS,
> and the data was recovered off the backup tapes.
> 
> http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/reagan/chron.txt
> 
> The Federation of American Scientists has it that way too.  
> Guess it boils
> down to who you believe, Ollie or FAS.
> 
Thanks for the link. As Ollie wasn't a techie, it looks like he got it
incorrect in his book. As you point out, even if it was deleted it was
recoverable from backup tape.

He was careful not to send the details of any agents in Nicaragua by email
though and managed to shred the paper copies (again according to his book).
Had their details became public their lives would have been put in danger
(ironic for a man who'd successfully set a price for a human life, which he
admits is his biggest regret).

An interesting lesson in data security.

John

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