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From: chris at go-net.com (Henry, Christopher) Subject: Fw: A question for the list... -----Original Message----- From: morning_wood [mailto:se_cur_ity@...mail.com] Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 7:34 PM To: Ed Carp; Full-Disclosure@...ts. Netsys. Com Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Fw: A question for the list... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Carp" <erc@...ox.com> To: "morning_wood" <se_cur_ity@...mail.com>; <nick@...us-l.demon.co.uk>; "Full-Disclosure@...ts. Netsys. Com" <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 3:26 PM Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Fw: A question for the list... > > as to any "privcy", it is my mail, and I will damn will do with it as I > > please. If any one else would like their personal mails posted, > > Actually, depending on where you live, you may be very wrong. In most > places, email (like everything else) is the property of the original author > (who holds the copyright). Just because you are sent an email message > doesn't confer any sort of special rights - just because you download a web > page that is publicly accessible, does that give you the right to do with it > as you please? Of course not. > > In short, it is *not* "your" email, it is the sender's email, and if he > wants to sue your silly twit ass for distributing it without his permission, > he is perfectly free to do so - in at least a dozen countries that I can > think of, this *is* the law. > > Better check the law before shooting your mouth off about things which you > might not be fully informed. Dear Mr Ed Crap, Mail is private until read, just because its labled as "mail" does not imply land based mail laws in whatever country you are in apply. If the internet at large had coined the term "imsg" or something else then it wouldnt be "mail" now would it.? You assume my email address is connected some how to a "private" account? It may be set up to autocollect my mail and post it to a webpage for public consumption, much like the full disclosure list here. To further note, I dont recall making acusations, or sending mail of a threatning, demeaning and sexualy explit maner to anyone on this list personally. It was "mrs jimi's" choice to send that to what she assumed was a personal address. Basicly its like this... as long as you so called "professionals" keep bitching about dumbass stuff, and being very incorrect 99% of the time, mabey the public will see the advantage to using "greyhats" to test and secure their websites and networks, as all you can do is quote from your professors and you self-help motivational seminars. It makes me sick how you bullshitted your way into a 60,000$ a year job and you can even think up a 0day if your life depended on it, let alone stop your secretary from running kazza etc. I challenge you to go through my posts and find an instance where a so called "security professional" accused me of some action or incorectness of information / action and I did'nt prove them wrong, not only by fact and theory, but by example. Have a great day MrCrap Donnie Werner http://exploitlabs.com _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html What you dou with your email is really your choice. I believe the point was that this is supposed to be a security mailing list. So no one on here really cares where you wood comes from or what you do with it in the morning. If your postings are not relevant to some security issue, feel free to keep it to your self. [ sick how you bullshitted your way into a 60,000$ a year job and you can even think up a 0day if your life depended on it ] At least we make $60,000. And most of us probably never had to think up a 0day before because we have something called security.
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