full-disclosure - Zone Alarm

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From: MRMyers at anteon.com (Myers, Marvin)
Subject: Zone Alarm

99.9 percent of all issues that are being blamed on the ZA software and
it 
seems as if people are just unwilling to even believe for a second that
maybe, just maybe it is their own ineptitude that has caused the
problem. I 
have used ZA since the very beginning, and I have yet to have one of
these so called catastrophic failures. I install and uninstall programs
on an almost daily basis, and yes mother I do visit some not so savory
sites. 

I am in total agreement that a hardware appliance built specifically for
the job at hand is better, but to trash a product just because a few
well meaning but under achievers say it is bad is rubbish. For ease of
install, and ease of use, ZA is as good or better than any of the other
software firewalls out there. 

By the way, I use a hardware appliance firewall, built just for the
purpose of being a firewall. Not everyone out there has the time or
patience to learn the various flavors of open source. And yes I also run
ZA Pro on all of the boxes behind the firewall. No problems, no issues.
Just smooth surfing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Reilly [mailto:michaelr@...co.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:46 PM
To: Schmehl, Paul L
Cc: Ben Tyson-Norrman; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Zone Alarm

I agree.  Use a router or a Unix/Linux box as a firewall if possible.

If you want/need to run firewall SW on your PC then I'd put zone alarm
about 3rd or 4th on the list of good ones to use.  It has a number of
problems with various applications, causing those applications to
mis-behave (sometimes crash).  For this reason I've "upgraded" to
another SW firewall on those machines which need to run their own
firewall.  (I am not the only one having this problem with Zone Alarm -
others in my group have also encounter problems and switched).

michael
On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 12:52:02 -0500
"Schmehl, Paul L" <pauls@...allas.edu> wrote:

> I'm not sure why you'd expect derision for that question.  I'd be more
> likely to give it to you for using HTML email. :-)
> 
> Zone Alarm is fine for a home user on the Internet.  It's certainly
> better than putting an unprotected Windows box out there.  I'd
> personally prefer a DSL router or a *nix box running a "real"
firewall,
> but ZA is fine for most people.
> 
> Who's the "everyone" who say that ZA is crap?
> 
> Paul Schmehl (pauls@...allas.edu)
> Adjunct Information Security Officer
> The University of Texas at Dallas
> AVIEN Founding Member
> http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/ 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Tyson-Norrman [mailto:ben@...waytv.co.uk] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:53 AM
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Zone Alarm
> 
> 
> I'm not sure I can ask this question without derision, but here
goes... 
> Zone Alarm, is it really as crap as everyone makes out.... or is the
> usual posturing by ill-informed...? 
> _______________________________________________
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Michael Reilly    michaelr@...co.com
    Cisco Systems, Santa Cruz, CA
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