full-disclosure - [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm

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From: ptourvi1 at twcny.rr.com (JT)
Subject: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm

This is a lame basis for your argument. You provide 2 vulnerabilities that
are old. Everything has vulnerabilities, I will not waste my time search ZA
for one, it's in there, it's a proven statistic. Now, explain to me how
having one of your uninformed users make a decision for every app that wants
to access the internet is better than plugging a router in and being done
for the most part. Which is easier? Right, the router is easier because they
just plug it in and go. You would have us believe that these "inept" users
WITHOUT ANY computer person are going to be smart enough to FIND zone alarm,
INSTALL it, CONFIGURE it, and then decide each time anything wants to hit
the net. Please, spend 30 more seconds and show me some CURRENT
vulnerabilities. 

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Shawn McMahon
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:23 AM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm

On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 08:35:05PM -0700, morning_wood said:
> 
> Theres nowhere for the packets to go.. and please, when was the last time
> anyone here had to flash a personal style router / switch
> within the past 2 years... dont go esoteric on us now..

Perhaps you should read security bulletins more often.

http://www.idefense.com/advisory/10.31.02a.txt
http://www.opennet.ru/base/netsoft/993631863_204.txt.html

That's just two.  Should I spend another 30 seconds searching and get
you some more?

Or are you going to argue that Linksys and Netgear are "esoteric"?

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