full-disclosure - [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm

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From: ptourvi1 at twcny.rr.com (JT)
Subject: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm

Glad your done, hopefully, there's someone close to them to get hardware.
But your assumption that you need to install hardware THEN install software
is wrong. Not every one requires this, the linksys being one that requires 0
software. Also, most people who are ALREADY on the net are there via DHCP,
so again, there would be 0 configuration required. BTW, I'd love to see what
applications you get to run when all you are doing is installing ZA, not
deciding on each application, OR a certain security level. Way to over
simplify the setup pal. Are you sure you don't want to clarify anything? 

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Shawn McMahon
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:24 PM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm

On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 01:54:49PM -0400, JT said:
> order to support your argument. How many people have a BEST BUY near
them??!
> No, they'd "order" it the same way they "order" ZA, by clicking some links
> and providing some info. After that, the setup is easier, please show me

Exactly; and if they're in Outer Slobovia, that could take weeks.
Whereas downloading Zone Alarm takes minutes.

> where ZA comes with a huge fold out diagram with pictures on it showing
> where to plug the 3 whole cables and be done with it except for a possible
> update here and there.

With ZA, you double-click on a downloaded file.  With a router, you
install hardware, THEN you go install files.  If you've already been up
and running, you also have to go change network settings, and that is
scary stuff for the computer illiterate.  If you can't see that X is
less work than X + Y + Z, for any values whatsoever of Y and Z > 0,
we have no common basis for discussion.

Either way, I'm done.

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