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From: packet at vtr.net (Rodrigo Gutierrez)
Subject: Blowing up PC's and leaking CERT info

In other words we can't say that 9/11 wasn't a tragedy, however
that compared to all the damage that the US cause to other countries,
3000 lives seems like nothing.  
Use all the humanity you've got to imagine yourself living in a country
where at any second cock sucking Bush can bomb your ass by "just" making
fake arguments by saying that you got chemical weapons when you don't,
attacking even if 90% of the countries in the world were against it,
attacking a country because of their chemical weapons when the US posses
chemical weapons of massive destruction, didn't you see that kid without
legs neither arms on your national tv?, probably was banned and you
didn't see it.
Well after all this what i can say is, if terrorists strike once more,
we can't justify them, however i can understand their reasons.
    

BUSH ALWAYS MENTION THE LORD:

AFGANISTAN + TRAGEDY = WHERE IS OSAMA ?    WHERE IS THE LORD?
IRAQ + TRAGEDY = WHERE IS THE CHEMICAL WEAPONS ?   WHERE IS THE LORD?

What you guys can do?
Elect a president thats not taken out from zoo.


Regards

Rod.-








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Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Blowing up PC's and leaking CERT info
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:31:23 -0600
From: "Jonathan Grotegut" <jgrotegut@...ectpointe.com>
To: "Shawn McMahon" <smcmahon@....com>,
<full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>

Shawn,

I am not saying that the 9/11 tragedy was not a tragedy because it was
in the fact a tragedy with all the lives were lost.  However, I feel
that tragedy is much less a tragedy because of all the good that has
happened since then.  Like for instance how many other tragedies have
been prevented because of the heightened awareness?  I know this doesn't
properly convey my point but I am not sure how to best put it into
words.  I hope you get the idea of what I am saying.

Jonathan Grotegut




-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn McMahon [mailto:smcmahon@....com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:31 PM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Blowing up PC's and leaking CERT info


On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 01:44:13PM +0000, Virtual_Mage said:
> 
> Since the so-called "tragedy" of 9/11, everything's been turned 
> sideways.

Hold on a second; 3,000+ people murdered isn't a tragedy?  If not, then
you shouldn't be complaining about ANYTHING.  You're opposed to
destroying a PC without due process, but destroying a few thousand of
them and the people sitting behind them without due process is OK?

Log off your PC, go outside, and interact with people until you get your
humanity back.


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