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From: smcmahon at eiv.com (Shawn McMahon) Subject: Destroying PCs remotely? On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 01:34:35PM -0500, Ron DuFresne said: > > Where in the patriot act and/or the patriot act part duce, or any of the > recent legislation voted to limit liberties and the freedoms we'd come > accustomed to, does it state these are only *temproary* measures? What Have you not even read the law? Or at least, read ABOUT it? Most of it has inherent time restrictions, in that it represents minor changes in various rules regarding search warrants and wiretaps. The court orders that authorize them contain whatever time constraints the judges order, and always have. 12 entire sections and one subsection expire on December 31, 2005, unless extended by Congress. Jesus, even the mainstream press covered this stuff. Are you people arguing against this thing with so little understanding of what's in it? Most of what doesn't expire is common sense measures like allowing the sharing of information between intelligence agencies again (you know, what the liberals were bitching didn't happen, despite the fact that they made it illegal 30 years ago), increasing the number of FISA judges (I.E, increasing the amount of judicial oversight over this process), the tweaks to the ECPA allowing them to include the Received headers in search warrant-mandated seizures, extending the ECPA so that the Cable Act doesn't make cable modem providers exempt from parts of it (I.E., dialup providers and cable modem providers follow the same rules), and some others. In the interest of Full Disclosure (and, BTW, folks, this bill has major direct implications for a number of computer security related issues, including direct impacts on the operation of this mailing list and others) I should add that the major bitch of the libs about the sunset provisions is Section 225, which basically says that if they've already started an investigation under one of the sections that expires, they don't have to automatically stop their investigation on December 31, 2005. Existing operations can continue past that date for as long as the judges care to allow. -- Shawn McMahon | Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, EIV Consulting | that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any UNIX and Linux | hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure http://www.eiv.com| the survival and the success of liberty. - JFK -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20030620/235807df/attachment.bin
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