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From: ops-lists at positivenetworks.net (ops-lists@...itivenetworks.net)
Subject: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service

Clearly, this thread is more odd than the behavior of the Windows
Messenger service.

Jay, please let us know which OS's are qualified for "serious use"
according to your standards. List some of these operating systems that
don't run any network-enabled service in a default install.

-Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Jay
Sulzberger
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:34 PM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Cc: Jay Sulzberger
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service




On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, dos cerveza wrote:

> The service starts before you login.
> This is normal behaviour.

Perhaps.  But this behavior is not sane.

If this behavior is incorrigible by an ordinary sysadmin using the
standard
tools, then that alone disqualifies the OS for serious use, even were
the
code free.

oo--JS.


> Please read the previous replies you have recieved.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "morning_wood" <se_cur_ity@...mail.com>
> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:11:46 -0700
> To: "Martin" <nakal@....de>, <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger
Service
>
> > > I can confirm this behavior. This service is enabled on Windows
2000
> > > and XP by default.
> > > I noticed it on my sister's PC after she clicked away 3
advertisement
> > >pop-ups and growling at the PC. I think that the average user does
> > >not know how to disable it.
> > > (And btw: NO, the average MS-Windows user is NOT USING any
firewalls.)
> > >
> >
> >
> > more to the point... THERE WAS NO LOGIN PERIOD
> > this was a fresh install.. waiting at the login prompt.. the pop up
was
> > there before any user ( admin ) settings initialized or login took
place.
> > once again.. this is out of  the box install following all prompts,
no
> > sharing etc. ( only setting computer name and workgroup )reboot..
sit at
> > login prompt.. login.. pop up was waiting on an uninitialized
desktop..
> > this is my question / issue...   NOT my personal security or lack of
> > knowlege about basic networking / security.
> > disabling the service is easy, im reporting on default out of the
box
> > behavior, not how to get rid of it or protect myself.
> > please all.. re-read my scenario...
> >
> > donnie
> >
> >
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