From: gml at phrick.net (gml)
Subject: ::::: future happenings..

You all focus on a worms potential for destruction too much.
What about threats that affect the real world. For instance
Theft of data on a massive scale. We've already seen worms
That do this.  Or worse DDOS networks that can be uses as weapons
Against foreign governments or even our own to disrupt or confuse.
I think wiping the HDD of machine is probably too overt and furthermore
Rather pointless as it will make it that much harder for the worm to spread
Once the damage is done.  For instance if the machine reboots, the OS will
Fail to boot and the worm will fail to go on another run.  I'd start looking
More towards the "blended threat" as Symantec seems to put it. And more
Advanced tools allowing people to create worms without much technical
knowledge.  There are a few already out there, I'm certain this will
Only get worse.

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[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of yossarian
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:14 PM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: Re:::::: [Full-Disclosure] future happenings..

Well, basically, any OS on any platform will be vulnerable when people don't
upgrade - when people care to write a virus or worm for it. Thats why MS is
affected - why code for the few BeOS users? They might all three be on
holiday and the worm might dud.
At least we'll have enough bandwidth then. Kidding aside - worse worms can
be made, and probably will be. It is an arms race. Technically much worse is
possible. Whiping HDD is one thing, set track0=bad or reprogramming parts of
standard hardware might be worse - like going after a pentium4 processor or
the BIOS.


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Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:01 PM
Subject: Re:::::: [Full-Disclosure] future happenings..


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> > Just reading through how easily this worm (RPC/DCOM/MSBlast) is
spreading,
>
> > and how widespread it is, and the potential number of infected systems
> - - do
> > some of you lot think its feasible that sometime in the future someone
> will
> > release a worm that DOES completely wipe the hard disks or do something
> > equally nasty to its host AFTER sending itself on to 'x' recipients?
>
>
> Let us hope so as it will be the only way the people will ever learn
> to stop purchasing this product. Corps and individuals alike will finally
> see through the charade of this company's code.  The purchasing decision
> makers at Corps have far too long enjoyed the silent kickbacks, the las
> vegas hooker runs financed by the weasel sales teams of the company that
> churns out this code.  The hoodwinking of the IT dept. shall come to
> an end, when the likes of senior management and even the CEO at the top,
>  all can no longer find that kiddie porn they downloaded for their daily
> wank just the other day.
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