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From: cheekypeople at sec33.com (CHeeKY)
Subject: Firewalls

why are you buying application layer firewalls? dont as a security person
you learn anything?

get hold of a spare 386, and make a netbsd, ipcop, smoothwall, linux based
firewall, alot of fun and a shit load better, I will personally stick with
my checkpoint box, but please please start taking ya firewalls of your own
machines, they deserve a place of their own, ON THEIR OWN BOX, Tiny and the
rest have all been breached with deep packet inspections through nemesis, at
the end of the day, its still Layer 7

Regards
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joey" <joey2cool@...oo.com>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Firewalls


> I remember using atguard a long time ago. Symantec
> bought atguard and now uses the engine in Norton
> Personal Firewall/Internet Security. I personally
> don't like NPF.
>
> I used Tiny Personal Firewall 1.x before they were
> bought by Kerio. Kerio Personal Firewall is the
> replacement to TPF. Their latest beta causes error
> messages on my computer but other than that it looks
> great. Im using the stable version 2.15 until they
> sort all of the bugs out :
>
> Stable:
> http://www.kerio.com/dwn/kpf2-en-win.exe
>
> 4.0 RC3:
> http://www.kerio.com/dwn/kpf4-beta.exe
>
> They also have great support forums:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/keriofirewall/
>
> > > anyway, it appears it's finally time to move on
> > from atguard and I was
> > > wondering if anyone here has any suggestions for
> > something simple and
> > > similar.
>
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