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From: gui at goddessmoon.org (Poof)
Subject: SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for $10m

Okay... So according to the law it's illegal to remove the program if later
you decide to not agree to the EULA? (Which I'm sure it says that the terms
can be changed at any time within it)

That sure doesn't seem kosher to me... I feel that you should be able to
remove/disable whatever on your computer. According to this logic... Using
Ad-Aware is illegal because it removes spyware from your system without
their non-existent uninstall interface!

Oh, and you're also not allowed to know what the file/driver name of the
program that they've installed is either?

Nice!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com [mailto:full-disclosure-
> admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Florian Weimer
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 23:52
> To: Nick Jacobsen
> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] SunnComm to sue 'Shift key' student for
> $10m
> 
> Nick Jacobsen wrote:
> 
> > it seems to me the perfect chance for a countersuite...  cause at least
> > as far as I know, most state's definition of computer crime would
> > include installing software on a machine withough the owners permission.
> > or knowlege..  and since that is what SunnComm's protection is doing...
> 
> According to the report, the software shows an EULA before the system is
> modified, so there is user consent.
> 
> By the way, the subject line is misleading.  SunnComm doesn't sue
> because of the "shift key" description (the company isn't *that*
> stupid), but because of the removal instructions for the Trojan Horse.
> These instructions could be indeed illegal to publish in the United
> States and other countries because they are specifically designed to
> circumvent an effective measure for restricting copies.
> 
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