full-disclosure - Partial Solution to SUID Problems

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From: hb-fulldisclosure at bsws.de (Henning Brauer)
Subject: Partial Solution to SUID Problems

On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 02:53:58AM -0500, Todd Burroughs wrote:
> If, by "messing up with them", you mean "turning off the suid bit", that
> cannot decrease security.  If they think otherwise, they do not know
> what they talk about.  Any program that is suid or sgid can either do
> nothing for or decrease your security.  I cannot think of any possible
> way that keeping suid/sgid could increase your security.  There are some
> exceptions if you want to give people partial root access, like 'sudo'.

please explain how a user should be able to change his password 
without a setuid passwd. write access to /etc/spwd.db and pwd.db for 
everybody...?

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Henning Brauer, BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
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