From: michael at bluesuperman.com (Michael Gale)
Subject: Anti-MS drivel

HAHHHAHAH 

--snip--
> Business on the other hand is moving slowly to Linux.  Why slowly? 
> Who do you sue when your business is hacked by someone who planted a
> backdoor in the Linux kernel?  Won't happen you say?  Let's see,
> almost happened once already . . . 
--snip--

Oh please ... did you read the wed site or did a friendly who knows how
to read explain it. The site says a public DB that offers TEST and BETA
kernels was attacked. It also says that the intrusion was caught which
would suggest that this was a unsuccessful attack.

I like how you point out one unsuccessful attack on linux but leave out
thousands of successful working and money costing Microsoft windows
problems.

Michael.




On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:47:44 -0500
"James Patterson Wicks" <pwicks@...gen.com> wrote:

> Microsoft has competition.  Apple, Sun, Red Hat . . .
> 
> Problem is Apple is full of idiots who feature style over substance.
> The system has to look better than it performs.  They want people to
> pay a premium to make it seem that their products are for the elite
> only. The OS is more stable than Microsoft, but their elitist attitude
> will always keep them at 5% market share.
> 
> Sun's Java should be the market leader, but they don't have the cash
> to take on the 800 pound gorilla that is Microsoft.  Java is on
> running Spirit, the rover that is on Mars right now.  Imagine if
> Spirit had a Microsoft OS running it.  Right after touchdown on Mars,
> you see the first image of the landscape and then . . . .  BLUE SCREEN
> OF DEATH!! Sorry, but the guy from the Help Desk can't just stop by
> and reboot it this time.  Even NASA is not crazy enough to trust a
> billion dollar project to a Microsoft OS.
> 
> Linux is just not ready for prime time.  By prime time I mean on the
> homes of the American public.  Regular home consumers don't want to
> have to learn a new language to use e-mail or play games.  They want
> to be able to update a security hole without having to compile
> something. Linux needs an interface like OS X and a software library
> to back it for"normal" people to be interested.  
> 
> Business on the other hand is moving slowly to Linux.  Why slowly? 
> Who do you sue when your business is hacked by someone who planted a
> backdoor in the Linux kernel?  Won't happen you say?  Let's see,
> almost happened once already . . . 
> 
> Linux kernel suffers Trojan horse hack -
> http://www.silicon.com/software/os/0,39024651,39116796,00.htm
> 
> Microsoft threw an incomplete, insecure computer solution at an eager
> market for a low price, so home users and businesses lapped it up. 
> Ever since Windows 95, home computing and Microsoft are nearly joined
> at the hip.  It will take time to break Microsoft's nine-year hold,
> but it's going to take more than OS X and the current Linux offerings
> to do it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Edward W.
> Ray
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 12:38 PM
> To: 'Mary Landesman'; 'David F. Skoll'; tlarholm@...x.com
> Cc: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com; ntbugtraq@...tserv.ntbugtraq.com;
> full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Anti-MS drivel
> 
> Mary:
> 
> Cisco at least has competition.  Juniper Networks has about a 25%
> share of
> the router market, which keeps Cisco honest.  Microsoft has almost
> market
> penetration at the desktop for both the home and business.  IMHO, they
> deserve all the anti-MS drivel people can dish out.  I will tire of it
> when
> I don't have to spend an hour each month clearing my firewall logs of
> attempted Code Red and Nimda infection attempts
> 
> Edward W. Ray  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Mary
> Landesman
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:55 AM
> To: David F. Skoll; tlarholm@...x.com
> Cc: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com; ntbugtraq@...tserv.ntbugtraq.com;
> full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall
> Day, help
> the cause
> 
> That's pretty much like teaching your kids to never talk to strangers,
> or
> never visit the "bad" part of town. Fact is, most crimes are committed
> by
> people we know. Microsoft is often victimized, mainly because they are
> so
> ubiquitous. Cisco is running a poll right now to see which of the 17
> critical patches are most important to users, because they only have
> the manpower to fix 10 of them. Should we all stop using Cisco
> products?
> 
> This anti-MS drivel is so tiresome.
> 
> -- Mary
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David F. Skoll" <dfs@...ringpenguin.com>
> To: <tlarholm@...x.com>
> Cc: <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>; <ntbugtraq@...tserv.ntbugtraq.com>;
> <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:06 PM
> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day,
> help the
> cause
> 
> 
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 tlarholm@...x.com wrote:
> 
> > I just wanted to remind everybody that tomorrow is Personal Firewall
> Day.
> > http://www.personalfirewallday.org/
> 
> That Web site is utterly disingenuous.  Rather than giving low-value
> information, how about high-value information that actually protects
> people:
> 
> 1) Don't use Windows.
> 2) Don't use Outlook.
> 
> Our company uses neither Windows nor Outlook, and although we do have
> a firewall, we do not use anti-virus software.
> 
> Of course, the sponsors of the site (Microsoft and a bunch of
> anti-virus vendors) can hardly see it as being in their interest to
> actually create a secure computing environment.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David.
> 
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Michael Gale
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