From: clint at secureconsulting.com (Clint Bodungen)
Subject: How much longer?

I really despise contributing to off-topic threads but I just have to say my
peace on this one (because it has gotten *so* ridiculous) then I'll drop it.

First of all, my apologies to Thorolf.  I didn't mean for that to sound as
harsh as it looked and like everyone is, so ridiculously, making it out to
be.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory A. Gilliss" <ggilliss@...publishing.com>
To: "Clint Bodungen" <clint@...ureconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] How much longer?

>
> NOT cool ... remember, information should be free ;-)

You win the clich? of the year award.  Bravo.

>
> Next time, before you start calling names, how about considering the
> other person's perspective and ask yourself what *you* would think if
> you were half a planet away with different information resources?

LOL You're the type of person that sits back on these posts waiting for the
perfect moment (which seems to be every other post) to spout out a novel's
worth of useless B.S. trying to look intelligent so that one day you can
hopefully be recognized by someone that has seen your name come across this
list and dazzle your friends by "googling" your own name at parties.
Anyway, who was calling names?  What a hypocrite.  LOL I made comment
reference a previous statement... came out a little shrewd I admit and I
apologized but here you come with flames a blazing speaking just as blindly
as you accused me of doing.  Typical.  Oh... and in relation to the other
half of the world... I *am* half a world away and I still research things
thoroughly before speaking publicly.  Furthermore, what do you mean
different information resources?  Ever heard of the internet?

> The poster states very clearly that he is not a native English speaker.
> The return address points to Germany. If you are well traveled, if you
> even own a passport (and only fifteen percent of Americans have one)
> then you would realize how completely different the perception of America
> is from *outside* the fish bowl.

Thank you Mr. Discovery Channel but I have been to 23 countries and
counting.  One would be surprised how many people from around the world
actually know more about America than a lot of Americans do.  I also refer
back to my previous statement on that whole research before you
speak/internet thing.

> Between linguistic differences (the
> German language, for example, puts the verb at the end of the sentence,
> a la postfix notation)

I speak German thank you.  Besides that... what the *hell* does that have to
do with this entire thread??  I think everyone understood him perfectly well
and considering he's *Polish, not German, I would have to say he speaks much
better English than I'm sure my Polish is.  Props Thorolf.

>
> And just to make you *really* cringe, I can't prove it, but I believe
> he's correct. 'nuf said.

Ok put down the tabloids and comic books.  I've written commercial software
for small firms as well as some very well known fortune 500 firms and I've
never had anyone looking over my should, holding my hand, or snapping
pictures of me in the deli because I didn't leave a back door in the
software for the govt. to regulate.  I've never even had a run in with the
Mafia.  " 'nuf said."  Maybe that's why you can't prove it.

>
> There's already a perception of the "ugly American". Please don't
> behave in a manner to further reinforce that stereotype.

In everywhere I've been in the world I've never had a problem.  I guess it's
all about how you present yourself and set yourself apart from the
stereotype.  Hmmm... maybe it's just you and all the other condescending
egotists like you.

>
> Flames > /dev/null

Grogory A. Gilliss > /dev/null

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