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From: ben at algroup.co.uk (Ben Laurie)
Subject: Operating Systems Security, "Microsoft Security,
 baby steps"

Schmehl, Paul L wrote:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com 
>>[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of 
>>Todd Burroughs
>>Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 2:17 AM
>>To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
>>Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Operating Systems Security, 
>>"Microsoft Security, baby steps"
>>
>>Updating any OS is a pain in the ass, but all of them have 
>>flaws and need to be updated.  I find that at least with the 
>>UNIX-like ones, you can go on the Net and do your updates 
>>faster than you get rooted.
> 
> 
> This is foolish thinking.  Do you really think that, when a patch comes
> out, *then* the hackers start working on exploits?  The exploits were
> being used *long* before the patch comes out.  The only thing a patch
> gets you is protection against *future* hack attempts against *that*
> weakness.

This is demonstrably not true - it depends who finds the problem.


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