lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu)
Subject: Calcuating Loss 

On Tue, 11 May 2004 08:37:30 PDT, Harlan Carvey said:
> Two words..."testing process".  What happened to that?
>  Don't tell me you're installing patches directly to
> production systems...

And three words in return: "time till worm".

We're fast approaching the point where a site can't do anything resembling a
reasonable testing process and complete it before the worm arrives.  You can
buy yourself *some* time if you start advertising that your jobs will require
second and third shift work the second week of every month.....

And remember - it's not just sysadmins.  You'll need to involve the application
support and programming staff, and quite possibly end users as well (more than
once, we've had stuff that checked out OK in our internal tests, but a user
managed to kill it on Test Sunday).

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 226 bytes
Desc: not available
Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20040511/8f682348/attachment.bin

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ