From: btoovey at igxglobal.com (Brian Toovey)
Subject: Microsoft and Security

anybody got a packet dump of the attack yet so we can regex out this
vuln against IIS?

It is quite terrible that this IE vuln has gone on now for two weeks -
from what I undserstand this is a "product feature", and thats why they
havent addressed it.

We filter our local redirects at our proxy to protect against it.  Your
thoughts on that method equiv? 

Brian

On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 14:53, http-equiv@...ite.com wrote:

> Where is Microsoft now "protecting their customers" as they love 
> to bray? Should not someone in authority of this public company 
> step forward and explain themselves at this time?
> 
> All of sudden panic is being created across the WWW with "IIS 
> Exploit Infecting Web Site Visitors With Malware", "Mysterious 
> Attack Hits Web Servers", "Researchers warn of infectious Web 
> sites" all stemming from all news accounts from an 
> unpatched "problem" with Internet Explorer now two weeks old and 
> counting, which in fact in reality stems from 10 months ago, 
> that being the adodb.stream safe for scripting control with 
> write capabilities.
> 
> What exactly is being done about this? Nothing. What does 
> multiple billions of dollars buy you today. Nothing. However for 
> $20 million you can almost fly to the moon.
> 
> Someone ought to step forward and explaini what exactly is 
> happening at this public company. The great "protector of their 
> customers". One might even suggest that their entire "security" 
> mandate be re-examined. What exactly do they consider a 
> vulnerability? Something that suits them or something that's 
> cost effective to fix. So what, a few people lose their 
> identities, have a few dollars extracted from their bank 
> accounts, have their home pages reset, we'll fix it when it 
> suits us as we have to be on budget this quarter. The  Big Boss 
> says $40 billion isn't enough this year. 
> 
> A vulnerability:
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/community/columns/securi
> ty/essays/vulnrbl.mspx
> 
> "A security vulnerability is a flaw in a product that makes it 
> infeasible  even when using the product properlyto prevent an 
> attacker from usurping privileges on the user's system, 
> regulating its operation, compromising data on it, or assuming 
> ungranted trust."
> 
> what this gibberish? For the past 10 months the adobd.stream 
> object is capable of writing files to the "all important 
> customer's" computer. It has real world consequences. It rapes 
> their computer. Does it fit into the gibberish custom 
> definition. Plain and simple: "A security vulnerability is a 
> flaw in a product that makes it infeasible". What kind of 
> language is this. Reads like the financial department conjured 
> it up.
> 
> Disabling scripting won't solve it. Putting sites in one of the 
> myriad of "zones' won't solve it. Internet Explorer can 
> trivially be fooled into operating in the less than secure so-
> called "intranet zone" and it can be guided there remotely.
> 
> What's happening here. Where is the Microsoft representative 
> explaining all of this to the shareholders and "customers" they 
> so dearly wish to protect.  This is unacceptable.  Someone must 
> be held accountable.

Brian Toovey
Senior Security Analyst
igxglobal

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