full-disclosure - Re: ask apple - was: lame bitching about xpsp2

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From: adamsc at gmail.com (Chris Adams)
Subject: Re: ask apple - was: lame bitching about xpsp2

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 09:13:52 +0200, it <fulldis@...m.ath.cx> wrote:
> at this point I'm personally more interested what others think about Mac OSX
> security history ranking among common OSs.
> without using it or having any relationship to apple I've placed it no2 after
> OBSD.

It's not - Apple's developers don't have the same pervasive security
focus that the OpenBSD team has. In general the stuff which comes out
of the Unix/NeXT side of the company tends to show signs of being
developed by people with at least average security awareness; some of
the classic Mac OS stuff has almost child-like naivety. The other
problem is that product-security@...le.com tends to be a black-hole -
the *only* way to get a response from them is to threaten public
disclousure and even a trivial fix will frequently take half a year or
more (they are better about releasing new versions of third-party code
when the upstream is patched).

Chris