From: toddtowles at brookshires.com (Todd Towles)
Subject: Automated ssh scanning

 There are too many factors that could play a role in this. We need to
reduce the factors more before we point fingers at any certain part. KF
has given us a good start.

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From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Automated ssh scanning

Will *ANYONE* that actually got hacked do me a favor and type:
"uname -a"
Then include that in your next email. I keep hearing "fully patched" 
server however I have a feeling the Kernel was left out of the patching.

-KF


Todd Towles wrote:
> Hey Ron,
> 
> Guest isn't a admin so they let the tool get in. But the real 
> questions is, how does it get root access on a fully patched server? 
> It appears to use a local exploit to gain root access. This is a
problem.
> 
> Sorry about the eariler e-mail, I haven't had my coffee today. Trying 
> to cut back and spend that money on IT security =P
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Ron 
> DuFresne
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:08 AM
> To: Tig
> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Automated ssh scanning
> 
> 
> 
> the real thing this user most likely suffered from was the weak 
> account passwd double, guest:guest.  Now, if the admin and other 
> account were setup with strong passwd's and this account was either 
> setup with a strong passwd or not setup at all might be a better test 
> of the stability of ssh and the debain setup in question.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ron DuFresne
> 
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Tig wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:43:47 -0400
>>Gerry Eisenhaur <GEisenhaur@...co.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am confused, you said you knew about some SSH scanning going on, 
>>>then set up those accounts on a box. Now you are curious way that box

>>>got rooted?
>>>
>>>Maybe I am missing something, but it seems you already have a pretty
> 
> 
>>>good assumption of why it got rooted.
>>>
>>>The software, as you seem to know, is a few exploits, a backdoor and
> 
> 
>>>some IRC stuff(bot and proxy).
>>>
>>>/gerry
>>>
>>
>>I think you did miss the point (which was a very good one). Basically,
> 
> 
>>once you have unprivileged access to a currently patched Woody box, 
>>you can quickly gain root access.
>>
>>I would love to see this tested against other version of Linux and 
>>*BSD with default (and updated) installations. Anyone have a spare box
> 
> 
>>and a few hours?
>>
>>-Tig
>>
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