full-disclosure - House approves spyware legislation

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From: michealespinola at gmail.com (Micheal Espinola Jr)
Subject: House approves spyware legislation

Yes, clearly laws don't always work and people find loopholes.  So
instead of making new ones to compensate, lets just stop.

Great idea.  I'm surprised that the law enforcement community has not
come to this conclusion.

...And don't both discussing the appropriate changes to make to
existing flawed laws or the prevention of new inappropriate laws. 
Lets just be negative, pass blame, and not be proactive about a
solution.

Are there any professionals on this list, or just people who like to
rant about policies and companies that they don't like?

"By a 399-1 vote, House members approved legislation prohibiting
"taking control" of a computer, surreptitiously modifying a Web
browser's home page, or disabling antivirus software without proper
authorization."

Yes, clearly this is a law against "hacking"...   *sigh*


On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:07:38 -0500, Todd Towles
<toddtowles@...okshires.com> wrote:
> Why make more computer laws...when the current computer laws can not be
> enforced correctl? We all know that the CAN-SPAM Act really cut the spam
> out of our e-mails *sigh* Then the INDUCE act will make half the stuff
> in a normal person's house illegal.
> 
> Making laws is just playing around...paper on top of paper doesn't stop
> anything. It all falls back to the old saying - Action speaks louder
> than words.
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> > [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of
> > Gregory Gilliss
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:04 AM
> > To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] House approves spyware legislation
> >
> > Great, Not that I'm any fan of spyware, but this is just
> > another law against hacking. Think - what's the difference
> > between this and someone using XSS to "take control" of a
> > computer? If you r00t a box and deface the home page, then
> > you've broken this law.
> >
> > <sigh> Instead of fixing the problem (poor software security)
> > we pass laws to punish the people who do the things that
> > illustrate the problem.
> > Basic philosophical differences, blah blah blah ...
> >
> > Worst of all, do you really think that the spyware rackets
> > will slow down or cease because of this? Nope - they'll just
> > migrate out of the jurisdiction.
> >
> > -- Greg
> >
> > On or about 2004.10.06 06:03:18 +0000, RandallM
> > (randallm@...mail.com) said:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > The U.S. House of Representatives voted late Tuesday to
> > restrict some
> > > of the most deceptive forms of spyware.
> > >
> > > By a 399-1 vote, House members approved legislation prohibiting
> > > "taking control" of a computer, surreptitiously modifying a Web
> > > browser's home page, or disabling antivirus software
> > without proper authorization.
> > >
> > >
> > http://news.com.com/House+approves+spyware+legislation/2100-1028_3-539
> > > 7822.h
> > > tml?tag=nefd.top
> > >
> > >
> > > thank you
> > > Randall M
> > >
> > >
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> > --
> > Gregory A. Gilliss, CISSP
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-- 
-Micheal