full-disclosure - House approves spyware legislation

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [day] [month] [year] [list]

From: ggilliss at netpublishing.com (Gregory Gilliss)
Subject: House approves spyware legislation

Ron,

I'm advocating R&D, education, and common sense. I'm disagreeing with the 
general philosophy of our society that passing more laws to punish the
transgressors is the solution to the problem.

Nice lure, but sorry, I'm not biting ;-)

-- Greg

On or about 2004.10.06 16:53:34 +0000, Ron DuFresne (dufresne@...ternet.com) said:

> On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Gregory Gilliss wrote:
> 
> > Great, Not that I'm any fan of spyware, but this is just another law
> > against hacking. Think - what's the difference between this and someone
> > using XSS to "take control" of a computer? If you r00t a box and deface
> > the home page, then you've broken this law.
> >
> > <sigh> Instead of fixing the problem (poor software security) we pass
> > laws to punish the people who do the things that illustrate the problem.
> > Basic philosophical differences, blah blah blah ...
> 
> So, yer advocating that breaking into a system to say plant a file or to
> do XSS tricks on the website is okay?  As long as it's merely an
> "illistration", correct?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ron DuFresne
> -- 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity.  It
> eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the
> business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart
> 	***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!***
> 
> OK, so you're a Ph.D.  Just don't touch anything.

-- 
Gregory A. Gilliss, CISSP                              E-mail: greg@...liss.com
Computer Security                             WWW: http://www.gilliss.com/greg/
PGP Key fingerprint 2F 0B 70 AE 5F 8E 71 7A 2D 86 52 BA B7 83 D9 B4 14 0E 8C A3