full-disclosure - Hacking into private files, my credit card purchases, personal correspondence or anything that is mine is trespassing and criminal.

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From: dufresne at winternet.com (Ron DuFresne)
Subject: Hacking into private files, my credit card
 purchases, personal correspondence or anything that is mine is trespassing
 and criminal.

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Andrew Smith wrote:

> This is the internet.
> This isn't your home, your car, your wallet.
> This is the internet.
> Offline analogies do not work. They also make my brain hurt, please do
> not use them.

as if I care about yer weak brain and the pain it causes you,...

> Whilst "breaking a weak lock" is criminal on the internet and in real
> life, it's also a hell of a lot easier to do on the internet, and a
> hell of a lot harder to get caught.
> The fact that something is illegal discourages no-one, the fact that
> they may get caught and punushed discourages most. The amount of laws
> it is possible to break by clicking a few links is insane, and only
> ever enforced if a large corporation is involved. I don't know what
> you expect from this rant, but i am quite concerned that someone with
> a CitiGroup (a bank?!) email address is talking about credit cards
> being stolen and "weak locks".
>

Let's face it, even internet life is little different then what we like to
refer to as 'real life'.  It all turns on trust, without trust and people
actually honoring that trust, life would be merely an animal existance.
Businness is defined under trusts at all levels.  A community of homes and
local small businesses all work on trust.  But, let someone hide behind
the annonimity of a screen and keyboard and they are willing to shit on
the same levels of trust that they would not dare do in their 'real life'.

Perhaps the trouble all along has been;  them damned hippies of the
60-70's era raised undelveloped brats.  and well pay for it for a few more
decades.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne
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OK, so you're a Ph.D.  Just don't touch anything.