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From: theinsider at 012.net.il (Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider)
Subject: IE is just as safe as FireFox

If you do have 14000 machines why don't you buy "Finjan's Vital Security For 
Web"?
It will filter all malicious I.E exploits for all its surfers(its a proxy, 
quite fast...)

Or just use SUS(system update server (microsoft)) just like any other 
administrator... to install sp2 or to just
replace the c:\windows\system32\shdocvw.dll with the patched one or with sp2 
one...

Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
Security Consultant
Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC)
Finjan Software LTD
E-mail: rivgi@...jan.com
---------------------------------
Prevention is the best cure!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Colin.Scott@...lc.com>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox


Oh yeah, I've got 14,000 Windows 2000 machines to update to windows XP SP2,
hang on wheres that CD?

So thanks for your infinate wisdom there Rafel.

Colin.








                                                                             
            "Rafel Ivgi, 
The-Insider" 
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dmin@...ts.netsys                                     Subject 
.com                      Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as 
safe as FireFox 
12/11/2004 06:44



That is incorrect, there is a fix --> SP2.
Users  should use the latest updated system, meaning if there is an SP2,
they
should install it.


Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
Security  Consultant
Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC)
Finjan Software  LTD
E-mail: rivgi@...jan.com
---------------------------------
Prevention  is the best cure!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Mkrtchian"  <dotsecure@...il.com>
To: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles@...okshires.com>
Cc: "Mailing List -  Full-Disclosure" <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>;
<ring-of-fire@...oogroups.com>
Sent: Friday,  November 12, 2004 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe  as FireFox


> They should've at least released that statement after  they fixed the
> IE FRAME vulnerability. 0 day exploit is in the wild and  no fix for
> it, yet they claim its secure enough.
>
> If the  programmers are as smart as the company press releasers, I can
> see   why I.E. still sux.
>
>
> Martin
>
>
> On  Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:59:20 -0600, Todd Towles
> <toddtowles@...okshires.com> wrote:
>> Microsoft's  security and mangement product manager (Ben English)
says...
>>
>> At a security roundtable discussion in Sydney on  Thursday, Ben English,
>> Microsoft's security and management product  manager, told attendees
that
>> IE undergoes "rigorous code reviews"  and is no less secure than any
>> other  browser.
>>
>> "Because IE is ubiquitous, you hear a lot more  about it, but I don't
>> think that Internet Explorer is any less  secure than any other browser
>> out there," English  said.
>>
>> http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+Firefox+not+a+threat+to+IE/2100-1032_
>>  3-5448719.html?part=dht&tag=ntop&tag=nl.e433
>>
>> Can  anyone say IFRAME? Lol
>>
>> -Todd
>>
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