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From: toddtowles at brookshires.com (Todd Towles)
Subject: IE is just as safe as FireFox

And what do you plan on doing about the unpatched exploited recently
released? There are holes for SP2...ones that haven't even been released
yet...


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	From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Rafel Ivgi,
The-Insider
	Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:44 AM
	To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
	Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
	
	
	That is incorrect, there is a fix --> SP2.
	Users should use the latest updated system, meaning if there is
an SP2, they 
	should install it.
	
	
	Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
	Security Consultant
	Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC)
	Finjan Software LTD
	E-mail: rivgi@...jan.com
	---------------------------------
	Prevention is the best cure!
	----- Original Message ----- 
	From: "Martin Mkrtchian" <dotsecure@...il.com>
	To: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles@...okshires.com>
	Cc: "Mailing List - Full-Disclosure"
<full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>; 
	<ring-of-fire@...oogroups.com>
	Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 3:03 AM
	Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
	
	
	> They should've at least released that statement after they
fixed the
	> IE FRAME vulnerability. 0 day exploit is in the wild and no
fix for
	> it, yet they claim its secure enough.
	>
	> If the programmers are as smart as the company press
releasers, I can
	> see  why I.E. still sux.
	>
	>
	> Martin
	>
	>
	> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:59:20 -0600, Todd Towles
	> <toddtowles@...okshires.com> wrote:
	>> Microsoft's security and mangement product manager (Ben
English) says...
	>>
	>> At a security roundtable discussion in Sydney on Thursday,
Ben English,
	>> Microsoft's security and management product manager, told
attendees that
	>> IE undergoes "rigorous code reviews" and is no less secure
than any
	>> other browser.
	>>
	>> "Because IE is ubiquitous, you hear a lot more about it, but
I don't
	>> think that Internet Explorer is any less secure than any
other browser
	>> out there," English said.
	>>
	>>
http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+Firefox+not+a+threat+to+IE/2100-1032_
	>> 3-5448719.html?part=dht&tag=ntop&tag=nl.e433
	>>
	>> Can anyone say IFRAME? Lol
	>>
	>> -Todd
	>>
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