From: toddtowles at brookshires.com (Todd Towles)
Subject: IE is just as safe as FireFox

I don't know about you Rafel, but I know people in your company think XP
SP2 is full of holes also. =)

"Ten new security holes in Windows XP Service Pack 2 have been
discovered, so get ready to insert new patches into your patch
management schedule. Microsoft recently announced their Security
Bulletin Advance Notification Program, which gives administrators a
several days advance notice of upcoming patches, however these new
security holes were announced by security product maker Finjan
Software."

http://www.winnetmag.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/44502/Windows_44502.h
tml

Great ten more patches they won't released for Windows XP Gold or
Windows 2000....

I think the founder of Finjan is speaking my language as well...

Shlomo Touboul, CEO and Founder of Finjan Software, said "Windows XP SP2
operating system is a continuation of the same Windows XP Operating
System and Windows Kernel. All Windows versions have been developed with
requirements for highest backward compatibility and open architecture,
with maximum productivity and ease of use. In addition, Windows
applications typically run with administrative permission with full and
unlimited access to computer resources."

Sound familiar?

-Todd

> Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
> Security Consultant
> Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC)
> Finjan Software LTD
> E-mail: rivgi@...jan.com
> ---------------------------------
> Prevention is the best cure!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Colin.Scott@...lc.com>
> To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox
> 
> 
> Oh yeah, I've got 14,000 Windows 2000 machines to update to 
> windows XP SP2,
> hang on wheres that CD?
> 
> So thanks for your infinate wisdom there Rafel.
> 
> Colin.
> 
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> 12/11/2004 06:44
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> 
> That is incorrect, there is a fix --> SP2.
> Users  should use the latest updated system, meaning if there 
> is an SP2,
> they
> should install it.
> 
> 
> Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
> Security  Consultant
> Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC)
> Finjan Software  LTD
> E-mail: rivgi@...jan.com
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> Prevention  is the best cure!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Mkrtchian"  <dotsecure@...il.com>
> To: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles@...okshires.com>
> Cc: "Mailing List -  Full-Disclosure" 
> <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>;
> <ring-of-fire@...oogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday,  November 12, 2004 3:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] IE is just as safe  as FireFox
> 
> 
> > They should've at least released that statement after  they 
> fixed the
> > IE FRAME vulnerability. 0 day exploit is in the wild and  no fix for
> > it, yet they claim its secure enough.
> >
> > If the  programmers are as smart as the company press 
> releasers, I can
> > see   why I.E. still sux.
> >
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > On  Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:59:20 -0600, Todd Towles
> > <toddtowles@...okshires.com> wrote:
> >> Microsoft's  security and mangement product manager (Ben English)
> says...
> >>
> >> At a security roundtable discussion in Sydney on  
> Thursday, Ben English,
> >> Microsoft's security and management product  manager, told 
> attendees
> that
> >> IE undergoes "rigorous code reviews"  and is no less 
> secure than any
> >> other  browser.
> >>
> >> "Because IE is ubiquitous, you hear a lot more  about it, 
> but I don't
> >> think that Internet Explorer is any less  secure than any 
> other browser
> >> out there," English  said.
> >>
> >> 
> http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+Firefox+not+a+threat+to+IE/
> 2100-1032_
> >>  3-5448719.html?part=dht&tag=ntop&tag=nl.e433
> >>
> >> Can  anyone say IFRAME? Lol
> >>
> >> -Todd
> >>
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