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From: mikenging at hotmail.com (Michael R. Schmidt)
Subject: If Lycos can attack spammer sites, can we all start doing it?

Is putting a murderer in jail too much for you too?

Cause that is the end justifying the means

A country has a right to protect its citizens

>From internal as well as external forces

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of J.A. Terranson
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 5:22 AM
To: Michael R. Schmidt
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu; 'Adam Challis';
full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] If Lycos can attack spammer sites, can we all
start doing it?


On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, Michael R. Schmidt wrote:

> Have you read the Geneva Convention? Or better yet "The United Nations
> International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights". Read it, the whole
> thing, and then bitch and moan.  Do you really think Terrorists live by
it?

This argument boils down to "the end justifies the means", and thereby
fails *every* philosophical test for legitimacy.

End of discussion - you have just knocked yourself out of the park.


-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
sysadmin@....org
0xBD4A95BF

 Civilization is in a tailspin - everything is backwards, everything is
upside down- doctors destroy health, psychiatrists destroy minds, lawyers
destroy justice, the major media destroy information, governments destroy
freedom and religions destroy spirituality - yet it is claimed to be
healthy, just, informed, free and spiritual. We live in a social system
whose community, wealth, love and life is derived from alienation,
poverty, self-hate and medical murder - yet we tell ourselves that it is
biologically and ecologically sustainable.

The Bush plan to screen whole US population for mental illness clearly
indicates that mental illness starts at the top.

Rev Dr Michael Ellner

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