full-disclosure - windows linux final study

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Date: Wed Apr  6 15:06:14 2005
From: mikie.simpson at gmail.com (Michael Simpson)
Subject: windows linux final study

would it have made any difference to the lancet making the decision to
publish andrew wakefield's anti_MMR research if they had known that he
was being paid by lawyers helping to sue the makers of the MMR vaccine

yes, they wouldn't have published and we wouldn't be a mumps epidemic
in britain.

knowing that authors of a "scientific" report have a vested interest
in a particular outcome is part of the process used for establishing
the validity of the research

would you trust your smartcard technology on the basis of a report
funded totally by the manufacturers of said smart card or would you
prefer some information that hasn't been potentially biased by greed?

> Come on people grow up, put your prejudices aside and look at the
> information provided, draw conclusions based on that, and be prepared to
> change that opinion when the information to hand dictates.

difficult to do without...wait for it...full-disclosure

On Mar 29, 2005 9:51 AM, ChrisDay@...splc.com <ChrisDay@...splc.com> wrote:
> Here we go again, so called intelligent people talking utter rot!
> 
> MS fund a report on windows v linux (as a web server), which to the best
> of anyone's knowledge at present is carried out by independent
> researchers, provides it's methodologies, and invites people to
> duplicate them.  Does the fact that MS funded the research invalidate
> the results?  Does the fact that it probably would have been more
> sensible to disclose the backers from day one change the results?  No.
> 
> Finding and justifying flaws in the methodology, or duplicating the
> methodology and demonstrating differing results may invalidate the
> report.
> 
> Based on the 'logic' being demonstrated by many people on this issue I
> would like to offer definite proof that God does not exist!  My proof?
> 
> Since the catholic church say God exists and they have a vested interest
> in the matter they must be lying.  Therefore God doesn't exist.  I rest
> my case.
> 
> Come on people grow up, put your prejudices aside and look at the
> information provided, draw conclusions based on that, and be prepared to
> change that opinion when the information to hand dictates.
> 
> Nuff said!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Vladamir
> Sent: 27 March 2005 16:14
> To: Valuable Password
> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] windows linux final study
> 
> I saw that a few days ago on /.
> 
> it's really stupid how far MS will go just to uphold their "reputation"
> 
> Valuable Password wrote:
> > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20050325/windows_linux_final_stud
> > y.pdf
> >
> > Microsoft funding of security report decried Finding that system is
> > superior to Linux is biased, critics say
> > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/217538_msftstudy25.html
> >
> > -----
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