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Date: Tue Apr 12 22:02:47 2005
From: mcbain at aol.com (mcbain@....com)
Subject: How to Report a Security
	VulnerabilitytoMicrosoft

Did you notice in my email i said they "admit" it?  There is no argument here nor there.  
 
The reason for this (from redmond) is they cannot break computers that are out there. There tolerance has to be even below one percent ,and even that is too much and finally conceded with them on their points.  Also, they do not "patch" they find the root of the problem which adds more time.  So you should be seeing less workarounds of microsoft patches. 
 
This is where the market for those third party scanners are out there for 0day or need to be picked up on by AVP's (which i must say have been doing  better).
 
Mike
www.michaelevanchik.com
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Georgi Guninski <guninski@...inski.com>
To: mcbain@....com
Cc: tuytumadre@....net; jasonc@...ence.org; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Sent: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:42:41 +0300
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] How to Report a Security VulnerabilitytoMicrosoft


On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 01:55:00PM -0400, mcbain@....com wrote:
>    They do want you to communicate with them (or vendors) in a more 
responsible manner but at the same time totally admit to their "PR issue" and 
how they have handled bug finders in the past and internal security in the past 
and are changing.  There email in this thread is exactly the truth as it was 
written.
>

calculate the difference in the dates:

http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/395563/2005-04-09/2005-04-15/0
Microsoft MSHTA Script Execution Vulnerability

iDEFENSE Security Advisory 04.12.05
www.idefense.com/application/poi/display?id=231&type=vulnerabilities
April 12, 2005


VIII. DISCLOSURE TIMELINE

11/02/2004  Initial vendor notification
11/02/2004  Initial vendor response
04/12/2005  Coordinated public disclosure


http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/395562/2005-04-09/2005-04-15/0
VIII. DISCLOSURE TIMELINE

10/25/2004  Initial vendor notification
10/25/2004  Initial vendor response
04/12/2005  Coordinated public disclosure


http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/395559/2005-04-09/2005-04-15/0
VIII. DISCLOSURE TIMELINE

11/11/2004  Initial vendor notification
11/11/2004  Initial vendor response
04/12/2005  Coordinated public disclosure


-- 
where do you want bill gates to go today?
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