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Date: Tue Apr 12 08:35:08 2005
From: gautam.bipin at gmail.com (Bipin Gautam)
Subject: How to Report a Security
	VulnerabilitytoMicrosoft

>They do want you to communicate with them (or vendors) in a more
responsible manner
 >but at the same time totally admit to their "PR issue" and how they
have handled bug
 >finders in the past and internal security in the past and are changing.

There are lot of ppl. 'here' who have bitter experiences to share.
Every one grows up and isn't immune to mistakes, so does the
companies. Its very funny to see ppl. run after a particular vendor
for  years&years with a feeling of REVANGE. In a time frame policies
change, ppl. change and things change in a way... its no-longer the
one that you use to hate!

>   
> I also did enjoy unloading 1500$ worth of paint all over them 
> =) 

Whenever i hear such discussions, for me it rymes like i hate
Microsoft cauz it costs me $$$. Suppose, if windows haven't cost a
penny... i think, the noise against it would have been a lot lower!

huh! these ppl. who shout 'against' are ppl. who were taught about
security by their mentors (socalled hackers) who always tried
advertising, the product we use is 133t than that of our competators.
Later when these brain-washed kids grew to be a man...... they start
the same vicious cycle. I've nothing against open source & there are
lot of  times i prefer it over other softwares. But, to those of
you... isn't it time to grow UP and stop nagging!~~~

- Bipin Gautam
http://bipin.sosvulnerable.net/

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