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Date: Fri Aug 26 04:19:07 2005 From: dmargoli+lists at af0.net (Daniel Margolis) Subject: talk.google.com On Aug 25, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Technica Forensis wrote: >> I don't understand the big fuss over google talk. >> >> > > I think the fuss has to do with the 'Privacy' paragraph in the > terms of service: > "You agree that Google may access or disclose your personal > information, including the content of your communications" and > "Personal information collected by Google may be stored and processed > in the United States or any other country in which Google Inc. or its > agents maintain facilities" > Justin already made a good reply to this, but it's worth noting that there was this in the Talk privacy policy: > The Google Talk software stores the most recent lines of your text > chats locally on your computer. Google Talk does not archive the > contents of your text or voice communications on Google's servers, > and we will not archive such contents on our servers without your > express permission and clear notification to all our users. We may > relay content for users in some cases. Google employees do not > access the content of any instant messages, voice transmissions, or > files you send or receive, except as described in this policy. > And farther down: > [...] we may record information about your usage of Google Talk, > such as when you use Google Talk, the size of your contact list and > the contacts you communicate with, and the frequency and size of > data transfers [...] > The only place I see the quote you posted ends in "...if Google is required to do so in order to comply with any valid legal process or governmental request." And I gotta tell you, I think AOL, MSN, Yahoo!, ICQ, and probably every big Jabber server in existence has the same policy. Even if they don't, of course, it doesn't mean anything--if the Feds come to their door with a search warrant, they can't well say, "Sorry dude. My privacy policy says I won't let you in." I'm not trying to come off as a Google apologist (heaven forbid!), but I really think the tinfoil hat types haven't been paying attention. "Oh no! My personal information is on the Internets!" Welcome to ten years ago. Cheers, Dan
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