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Date: Sun Aug 28 23:11:16 2005
From: nbilogorskiy at fortinet.com (Nick Bilogorskiy)
Subject: violent words

Ignore such people and they will eventually shut up...

Nick

=> -----Original Message-----
=> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
=> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk]On Behalf Of
=> hescominsoon@...anuelcomputerconsulting.com
=> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:02 PM
=> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
=> Subject: Re: Re: [Full-disclosure] violent words
=>
=>
=>
=> J A's behavior and the other person who adressed him are not typical for
=> this list.  Just killfile them and any others you find objectionable.
=> They are the excpetions rather than the rule.
=>
=> "J.A. Terranson" <measl@....org> wrote on 08/28/2005, 11:56:28 PM:
=> >
=> > On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Peer Janssen wrote:
=> >
=> > > I am new to this list.
=> >
=> > Then perhaps you should lurk for a while?
=> >
=> > > I suppose the goal of "full disclosure" is to make this
=> world a better
=> > > place.
=> >
=> > No.  Not really.  FD is the place where ego's rule and manners are
=> > unknown.  Think UseNet circa 1995.
=> >
=> > > So I'm quite astonished about the tone I'm reading in the last mails.
=> >
=> > If these bother you then you will likely not find this a very
=> comforting
=> > home.
=> >
=> >
=> > > Is this the general tone here ?
=> >
=> > Yes.
=> >
=> > > I never read such a thing before.
=> >
=> > Then you don't get out much, do you?
=> >
=> > > Maybe in films, but this is real life, and you are real persons.
=> >
=> > No - you and me are real persons.  Eric Scher is a wad of dick cheese.
=> >
=> > > Why are you doing this to yourself? Is any of you feeling happier
=> > > talking like this to your fellow human beings?
=> >
=> > Quite.  Thanks for asking.
=> >
=> > > And in front of probably thousands of people?
=> >
=> > Hrmmm... Thousands?  I don't know that FD has that kind of penetration
=> > anymore - but *maybe*.
=> >
=> > > Is this the kind of world you want to create?
=> >
=> > It the kind of world we're already IN peer.  Dig it or check
=> out, right?
=> >
=> > > I guess I somewhat understand both your point of view and what your
=> > > friction is about, but I think if you try and put yourself
=> in the shoes
=> > > of your diskussion partner, you could figure out some way to
=> get along
=> > > better. I'm sure you can do that.
=> >
=> > I don't think so.
=> >
=> > > I appreciate franc words which are better than keeping silent about
=> > > injustice, but I also suppose that gentle and humble -- everybody has
=> > > some dark sides -- words will generally work better.
=> >
=> > Words are, unfortunately, all we have (for now anyway.  I'm
=> working on the
=> > rest though).  So we might as weell use them ;-)
=> >
=> > > Cheers
=> > > Peer
=> >
=> > //Alif
=> >
=> > --
=> > Yours,
=> >
=> > J.A. Terranson
=> > sysadmin@....org
=> > 0xBD4A95BF
=> >
=> >
=> > I like the idea of belief in drug-prohibition as a religion in
=> that it is
=> > a strongly held belief based on grossly insufficient evidence and
=> > bolstered by faith born of intuitions flowing from the very
=> beliefs they
=> > are intended to support.
=> >
=> > don zweig, M.D.
=> >
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