Date: Tue Sep 27 17:59:24 2005
From: bart.lansing at hushmail.com (Bart Lansing)
Subject: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics

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n3td3v, man, really, lay off the caffeine.  Of course newspapers
solicit for videos and photos of newsworthy events.

Other comments regarding your slightly maniacal rant:

SUICIDE bombers...typically DEAD.  Tough to solicit videos from
them, and rather pointless to keep a top ten list as
they...well...can't exactly do it again.

Of course newspaper sites and newspapers accord special places
(called the Front Page) to bombers of government facilities...it's
what they do...publish the news.

None of the above is considered to condone or glorify terrorists
(which is a different philisophical topic and not one to start
here), it is simply reporting the news.

Have a cup of decaf and read what you are sending before you send
it.


 Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:38:31 -0700 n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
wrote:
>Do newspaper sites ask suicide bombers to submit videos?
>
>Do newspaper sites keep a chart of the top suicide bombers?
>
>Do newspaper sites give you special status if you bomb a gov
>building?
>
>Thats what Zone-H does in the cyber terrorism world.
>
>It is not the same as a newspaper or newspaper site.
>
>I would like to see how long CNN.com would stay online if it
>started
>supporting terrorists to submit suicide bombings, and rate them by

>the
>importance of the building they bombed. And an archive of top
>terrorist groups who submit that information? Why hasn't CNN.com
>done
>that yet?
>
>And if Zone-H is "OK", then why haven't sites like CNN.com and
>all-the-others setup a "submit your cyber terrorism attacks" yet.
>
>Thats all for now,
>Thanks, n3td3v
>
>On 9/27/05, Richard Horsman <richardh@...-1.com> wrote:
>> n3td3v,
>>
>> I would compare zone-h more to a newspaper than a terrorists
>site.
>> Newspapers report what is happening in the world whether it's
>good news
>> or bad news. Zone-h brings news about defacements and other
>security
>> related issues, it does not encourage defacements.
>>
>> Richh
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
>> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of
>n3td3v
>> Sent: 27 September 2005 17:10
>> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
>> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Third issue of the Zone-H Comics
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have reviewed your site and it sucks.
>>
>> Looks like you're trying to encourage the activity of webpage
>> defacement and bringing celebrity status to those who can
>deface/
>> submit the most defacements.
>>
>> You make it look legal by saying the site is useful for
>research, but
>> really, we all know it encourages the malicious kids who submit
>to the
>> site. I don't know why the security services in the U.S haven't
>closed
>> you down.
>>
>> Your site is in comparison to asking terrorist bombers to post
>suicide
>> bombing videos to a website and asking you to look at it. The
>only
>> difference here is, Zone-H is about cyber terrorism, rather than
>> terrorism in the real world.
>>
>> Do the U.S security services take cyber terrorism as seriously
>as real
>> world terrorism? And if they do, Why is Zone-H still online?
>>
>> A journalist should ask that question at Bush's next news
>conference.
>>
>> Also:
>> Are Zone-H admins about to expand the website to allow for
>suicide
>> bombing video's, or is that different from the cyber terrorism
>that
>> your site currently supports. And if you don't support cyber
>> terrorism, then why is Zone-H online and why are you an admin of
>> Zone-H.org
>>
>> Thats all for now,
>>
>> Thanks,
>> n3td3v
>>
>>
>> On 9/27/05, Gerardo 'Astharot' Di Giacomo <astharot@...e-h.org>
>wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >  http://www.zone-h.org
>> >  Gerardo 'Astharot' Di Giacomo - Zone-H Admin
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