Date: Tue Oct 11 16:17:17 2005
From: toddtowles at brookshires.com (Todd Towles)
Subject: PAYPAL security,
	hundred or thausend of buyers under cc fraud

Hey Class, in the US..it is up to the that bank if they tell you or not...some just watch your account. Most banks get a list of the exposed account and they know. But if they issue new cards or even tell their customers is different per bank. My bank wouldn't even tell me if I was on the list... 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk 
> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf 
> Of ad@...ss101.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:45 AM
> To: 'Mary Landesman'; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or 
> thausend of buyers under cc fraud
> Importance: High
> 
> Could be something as big as cardsystems then right, had not 
> read about this, but I think my bank had to aware me of a 
> potential risk on my account , dunno, but anyway regarding 
> all complaints, its something big as cardsystem like you 
> suggest , nor as big as amazon or paypal, all complaints are 
> from this month, DIGITAL AGE will be found, I hope , bastards :>
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: Mary Landesman [mailto:mlande@...lsouth.net] Envoy??: 
> mardi 11 octobre 2005 16:00 ??: ad@...ss101.org; 
> full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk Objet?: Re: 
> [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or thausend of 
> buyers under cc fraud
> 
> I've spent less than 5 minutes looking through that thread 
> and already have found a number of posts stating their card 
> was not affiliated with PayPal.
> So I have to wonder how you jumped so quickly to that conclusion.
> 
> Remember CardSystems - 200,000 credit card accounts were 
> compromised and 40 million accounts exposed just months ago. 
> I think I would put my bet on something more obvious, like that.
> 
> Research is about more than collecting links that backup your 
> viewpoint.
> 
> -- Mary
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ad@...ss101.org>
> To: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:23 AM
> Subject: [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or 
> thausend of buyers under cc fraud
> 
> 
> I will explain my small story to show you that using paypal 
> to buy on the
> web is risked.
> I have buy only 2 things this month, 1 game at 
> steampowered.com and 1GB DDR2
> at a respectable ebay store. That was the first time I were 
> using paypal to
> pay things on the net and so on it will be the last time..
> 
> Today I notice at my bank account a fraudulent debit of 
> 24.99$ coming from a
> "DIGITAL AGE 888", and looking on the web, happy to see that there is
> hundred maybe thausends of ppl in my case , fraudulent charge 
> of 24.99$ from
> a "digital age".
> 
> look there:
> 
> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14525502?
> hilite=digital+age
> 
> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14521837?
> hilite=digital+age
> 
> http://www.robertkbrown.com/2005/10/04/digital_age_fraud.html
> 
> after reading all this and comparing with my case, sure it 
> comes from paypal
> and the stored cc card.
> 
> So if you are under the fraud also like me, fill a complaint 
> to your bank
> and there http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp
> 
> This was a first and last use of paypal for me, unbelievable ...
> 
> 
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