full-disclosure - McAfee VirusScan vs Metasploit Framework v2.x

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Date: Fri Dec  9 21:18:38 2005
From: dudevanwinkle at gmail.com (Dude VanWinkle)
Subject: McAfee VirusScan vs Metasploit Framework v2.x

On 12/9/05, Michael Holstein <michael.holstein@...ohio.edu> wrote:
> Because I'll catch the kiddies when they try and actually use Metasploit
> on something, and then they'll get expelled from school after a student
> conduct hearing.

Hmm,  when I was working at a state run institute, we had a policy of
letting the students do things that helped them learn. What better way
to learn about the importance of error handling than exploiting what
happens when you dont learn about them?

Just let them mess around on a private network you say?

You cant reproduce the internet (except inet2 =P). Also, if a school
squashes creativity, or hampers research (in what ever form they may
take) you will not be able to compete in the educational arena.

If we had busted Chris Claus, he wouldnt have gone on to donate 15 mil
for the new Claus College of Computing ;-)

-JP (the retard)