full-disclosure - McAfee VirusScan vs Metasploit Framework v2.x

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Date: Sat Dec 10 16:06:15 2005
From: stan.bubrouski at gmail.com (Stan Bubrouski)
Subject: McAfee VirusScan vs Metasploit Framework v2.x

McAfee sucks when it comes to security tools, they call them all
trojans and hacks.  A couple years ago I reported a few bugs in a
LanSuite Pro and included a perl script to show the attacks on
Bugtraq.  McAfee was blocking it a week later... but here's the
kicker:

Everyone on the list and any lists it had been forwarded to who had
McAfee were sending me e-mails claiming I sent them a virus.  I got
thousands of these messages flooding my Inbox.  McAfee's response was
that it was my problem... about 4 months later I stopped getting the
messages... but still this is how they act so it shouldn't surprise
you metasploit is blocked.

-sb



On 12/9/05, sk / GroundZero <fd-list@....org> wrote:
> Sure because they can pay NOT to be included by virii scanners so they make more sales ;)
> Maybe it wasnt even an error, maybe a little tip from someone to the virii companies.. who knows.
> Reminds me of the Sony case somehow.
>
> -sk
> Http://www.groundzero-security.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Orlando Padilla" <xbud@...head.com>
> To: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] McAfee VirusScan vs Metasploit Framework v2.x
>
>
> > Would you yank out Canvas, and Core Impact products as well?
> >
> > oh, wait... there probably isn't a sig for those so you wouldn't know.
> >
> > On Friday 09 December 2005 11:38 am, Michael Holstein wrote:
> > > > Looks like some overzealous idiot at McAfee added "Trojan" signatures for
> > > > 202 files in the latest version of the Metasploit Framework. If you use
> > > > the Framework for your job and have a McAfee support contract, *please*
> > > > call them and let them know that their product is incorrectly tagging a
> > > > standard security tool as a "Trojan" and that this is interfering with
> > > > your ability to conduct business.
> > >
> > > A gun is a legitimate tool too .. except when it's in criminal hands.
> > >
> > > McAfee (and any other A/V product) let you configure exceptions/overrides.
> > >
> > > In my enterprise environment (McAfee, BTW), I would *want* copies of
> > > Metasploit yanked automatically from a PC.
> > >
> > > My $0.02
> > >
> > > Michael Holstein CISSP GCIA
> > > Cleveland State University
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