full-disclosure - a call for full-disclosure to become a moderated list

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Date: Thu Dec 15 14:20:07 2005
From: bart.lansing at hushmail.com (Bart Lansing)
Subject: a call for full-disclosure to become a
	moderated list

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Mark, et al

Given the noise ratio (esp. lately, thanks to a couple of
misanthropes with nothing vaild to say) I would agree that some
moderation of the list would be in order, if there was a way to
find a verifiably non-biased and tolerant inidivdual with the
willingness to wade through this quagmire on a regular basis.

Personally, it's just not that big a deal to filter out the noise
by adding a couple of people to the autotrash list.  I suppose it's

remotely possible that n3td3v or infosecBOFH (who seems to be
attempting to validate his choice of handles by being an
unmitigated ass whenever possible) might actually have something
constructive to contribute at some point...but I'll just have to
risk missing out on it going forward.

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:20:06 -0800 mis@...den.com wrote:
>it seems to me that without a moderator (since there is the
>apparent
>absence of people who are moderate, or even civilized), this list
>will
>continue its degeneration into a never-ending pissing contest.
>
>(some people don't seem to think that the social compact one
>accepts
>when joining a list applies to them.
>
>my most recent attempt to politely, in direct email, ask one of
>the
>offenders to stop doing this sort of thing on the list ...  was
>posted
>with a twerpy reply right back to the list).  (no good deed goes
>unpunished).
>
>how many people who actually find value in this list (which i
>have,
>since len rose set it up quite a long time ago) agree with this
>position?
>
>if you think there's a compelling reason for no moderation, i'd
>like to hear it.
>
>i call to your attention three brief selections from the list
>charter,
>which is at
>http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
>which i think have been violated recently:
>
>"Members are expected to maintain a reasonable standard of
>netiquette when posting to the list."
>"Disagreements, flames, arguments, and off-topic discussion should


>be taken off-list wherever possible."
>"Gratuitous advertisement, product placement, or self-promotion is


>forbidden."
>
>
>
>
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