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Date: Sun Dec 18 22:40:23 2005
From: jlongs2 at uic.edu (James Longstreet)
Subject: BANTOWN PRESENTS: Give me 0day or give me death

Bantown is like FYAD if FYAD wasn't funny

On Dec 17, 2005, at 11:26 PM, Andrew A wrote:

> Because of my philosophical leanings, I have made the assumption  
> that freedom of speech and expression is an inalienable right  
> granted by nature's God. I have made the extension to this  
> statement that the freedom to write code and execute your code is  
> an extension to free speech. Fascists that may disagree with my  
> statements may go ahead and skip this post.
>
> Now, let us say you have a machine connected to the Internet. It is  
> impossible, by this computer's very nature, for it to do anything  
> that is was not programmed to do. It takes in the data that it is  
> given, processes it according to deterministic rules, and returns  
> output that it could not possibly have deviated from. This process  
> may be so complex that it appears to be stochastic, but it is  
> nonetheless deterministic and we should not pretend it is anything  
> but. This deterministic sequencing extends far beyond just your  
> computer. If every element in a system is deterministic, then the  
> whole system itself is deterministic. The entire Internet is a  
> single, uninterrupted deterministic state machine.
>
> I present to you the Eleatic school of hacker ethics.
>
> The Internet is public property. No establishment has a right to  
> own it, subvert it, subject it, or rule over it. It extends beyond  
> race, nationality, religion, or geopolitical agreement. Now that we  
> understand that the Internet is a single deterministic machine, we  
> may approach this situation with logic and reason as opposed to  
> knee-jerk reactionary idiocy. When connected to the Internet, your  
> computer becomes a part of this deterministic machine. It is  
> impossible for your computer to execute any code which it has not  
> been programmed to execute. If your computer has been programmed to  
> accept my arbitrary code, then there is no moral or ethical  
> violation committed when I introduce my code to yours.
>
> If you download and execute my code, you have done so willingly.
>
> If your daemon executes my code after I introduce it in a manner  
> that is innovative and unique, then your daemon has done exactly  
> what it has been programmed to do.
>
> You don't want me to execute my code inside your code? Then keep  
> your machine out of OUR deterministic state machine. Keep it on  
> your own private network, so that someone will have to commit a  
> real honest-to-God crime like breaking and entering to have access  
> to it. The minute you connect it to a public network, it becomes  
> connected to all of us through the 0 and 1.
>
> Whitehats will try to play games and act like they're the good  
> guys. They will tell you that people who commit "computer crimes"  
> are organized crime types who are out to empty your grandma's bank  
> account. Their arguments are bullshit. No doubt that emptying  
> someone's bank account is a serious crime, but we have real laws to  
> punish this. The laws that we have made to punish "information  
> crimes" are merely laws against thoughtcrime. It is impossible to  
> commit crimes that extend solely in the wired.
>
> Take a look at what your governments are doing. The majority of  
> whitehats are employed in the US, where they have a leader that  
> willingly and openly defies the fourth amendment of their  
> constitution. They have a corporate oligarchy where a select few  
> families get to control ninety-nine percent of the public funds and  
> purposefully impoverish the working and intellectual classes.  
> Things are only marginally brighter in the rest of the first world.  
> This is your idea of a utopia, the system that you want to  
> perpetuate indefinitely? Do you really want the tyrants in this new  
> Rome to reign a thousand years like the last one did? I sure don't,  
> so stop preaching to me a bunch of bullshit about rule of law.
>
> Wake up.
>
> Stop working for these oligarchs that despise you. Band together,  
> because at this point all that keeps the oligarchs in power is  
> control over the ones and zeros. We have a power to change them for  
> the better, a chance to make a lasting contribution to humanity.
>
> You can be a hero in the manner of Plato, of Socrates, of Pappus,  
> Pascal, Parmenides and Zeno. You can change the world. All you need  
> is to cast off the shackles that your masters have put on you!
>
> Be fearless.
>
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