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Date: Tue Jan 17 20:51:35 2006
From: michael.holstein at csuohio.edu (Michael Holstein)
Subject: Secure Delete for Windows

> An exe?  No source???  Just "setup.exe"????  Are you crazy?

Or .. get GNU coreutils for windows :

http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/coreutils.htm

and just use 'shred'.

(although 'man shred' specifically makes note about journaled 
filesystems -- which NTFS is. I have not forensically analyzed the 
effectiveness of this tool on a specific file -- only on a block device).

SysInternals also offers a freebie tool called 'sdelete'. Source for 
that is also available :

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/SDelete.html

(and in the discussion about 'how sdelete works' they reference the same 
problem regarding journeled filesystems).

If the emminently wise gent from GroundZero wishes to comment on how his 
perticular product addresses these issues, then that might be fodder for 
the list (versus the ongoing flames).

Regards,

Michael Holstein CISSP GCIA
Cleveland State University

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