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Date: Thu Jan 19 15:13:29 2006
From: greybrimstone at aim.com (greybrimstone@....com)
Subject: Vulnerability/Penetration Testing Tools

Interesting,
  How is it that I start a thread on penetration testing tools... and it 
evolves to Trademark....

 -Adriel

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Yvan Boily <yboily@...il.com>
 To: greybrimstone@....com <greybrimstone@....com>
  Cc: ge@...uxbox.org; hdm@...italoffense.net; 
full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
 Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:12:09 -0600
 Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Vulnerability/Penetration Testing Tools

 The adwords/trademark issue on Google has seen its day in court.

 Kind of interesting:

 http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=google+geico+lawsuit&meta=

 On 1/17/06, greybrimstone@....com <greybrimstone@....com> wrote:
  > I think its up for debate. Business and ethics aren't one in the 
same.
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>
 > To: H D Moore <hdm@...italoffense.net>
 > Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
 > <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
 > Sent: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:20:31 +0200
  > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Vulnerability/Penetration Testing 
Tools
 >
 > H D Moore wrote:
 > > You should check out the Metasploit Framework:
 > > - http://metasploit.com/projects/Framework/
 > > > <rant>
 > > When I viewed the online demo of SAINT Exploit in December of 2005,
 > nearly > all of their exploit modules had names very similar to the
 > ones found in > version 2.5 of the Metasploit Framework. The demo has
  > been updated since > then and a handful of new exploits have been 
mixed
  > in while others had > their name changed. Oh, and their placement of 
a
 > Google Adword on > "metasploit" was a nice touch...
 > > </rant>
 >
 > Speaking of Google..
 > I had the unfortunate fortune of working on an ad campaign recently.
 > It brought to the fore many questions.. some of them were about this.
 >
 > If I put an adword on "symantec", don't I breach their trademark, or
 > Google does?
 >
 > I doubt anyone would sue Google to find out, or be in courts for so
 > long it won't matter any longer.
 >
 > Annoying, but works both ways.
 >
 > Gadi.
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